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Subject: Re: Practice: Pay-Per-Use

Agreed. The information of where the money flows should do just that.
I said it doesn't matter for the short term decisions intending that
we know the two geographic regions are different and we are
fulfilling customer desires. In the long term there are many
statistics being analized. The company I am at is very serious about
such things. The E.C. and Board seem to be the sharpest I have worked
for!

As the development methodology evolves soon this place will be the
envy of many companies and their programmers!

I remember working at the world's largest applications provider. I
was on the Mac team. I asked the CFO if they tracked revenue per
product. Of course he said they did. I asked him how much revenue the
Macintosh line was generating. He said they didn't break the numbers
down by platform. I asked if he could do so and he said no they are
not recorded with that information and thus it was impossible.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Mac's, I have 3 at home and only one PC
running Windows, but I am very practical. The amount of money that
was spent on some of these projects that competed with software that
shipped on every Mac seemed to be a mistake in my view. Since they
didn't keep track of the revenue I couldn't nail my concerns down to
anything solid, but I always felt it would be cheaper for the company
to buy all of their Mac users a new PC and send it to them.

Noting that I was an extreme Mac bigot back then and I still prefer
OS X over Windows 2003 Server!

I wrote the QuickTime VCR which was the first QuickTime movie player
available for download instead of Simple Player. I love my Mac!

Geoff

--- In xpbookdiscussiongroup-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Kent
Beck"
<kentb@xxxx> wrote:
> I find it interesting that preference for billing model has a
cultural
> component. However, the customers' preferences are not the only
issue the
> business should be concerned with. The point I am making is that
increased
> information available to the team in the form of changes to the
revenue
> stream leads to better software development. If this improvement
turned into
> significant cost reductions, it might be worth taking a risk on the
business
> side to introduce an "unpopular" payment model.
>
> Kent Beck
> Three Rivers Institute
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xpbookdiscussiongroup-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:xpbookdiscussiongroup-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of
> > SirGilligan
> > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 8:49 AM
> > To: xpbookdiscussiongroup-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [xpe2e] Practice: Pay-Per-Use
> >
> > I am in a business were we do both subscriptions and pay-per-use.
We
> > have a "huge" customer base.
> >
> > The users from the U.S. prefer subscription based products.
> > The users from the U.K. and Europe prefer Pay-per-use.
> >
> > Could it be cultural?
> > Could it be the amount of consumer debt that is carried?
> > Could it be the lack of understanding of costs and economics?
> >
> > I don't guess ther reasons matter. The preferences of the two
groups
> > is really all a business should be concerned with for the short
term.
> >
> > Maverick
> > (a.k.a SirGilligan)
> >
> > --- In xpbookdiscussiongroup-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > Friedrich Brunzema
> > <brunzefb@xxxx> wrote:
> > > There is something about pay per use that I don't like. I don't
> > really
> > > know what it is, but (perhaps its just the wording - pay, pay,
> > pay).
> > > Renting a video from a store could be perceived as per per use,
and
> > > ordering a pay TV movie would certainly be that as well.
Somehow I
> > see
> > > pay TV more as pay per use than renting a video from a store,
even
> > if
> > > this does not make logical sense to me.
> > >
> > > Perhaps what I don't like about pay per use is what's so good
about
> > it
> > > in terms of feedback -- it reminds me that I have to pay every
day.
> > >
> > > Just think about cars for one second. If you had to put money
down
> > > every time you got into your car to pay for the real car costs
(not
> > > just the gas!) - this would provide good feedback on how much
you
> > are
> > > actually spending every day. The cost of longer trips would
become
> > > very apparent. Taxi rides are also pay per use, which make
costs
> > > very apparent. I suspect many people would use cabs instead of
> > owning
> > > a car if the costs were really in your face.
> > >
> > > From a business perspective, pay per use probably makes a great
deal
> > > of sense. I also appreciate what Kent is saying about money as
the
> > > ultimate feedback, and how it can help to create even more
value.
> > > Still, there's something about it I don't like.
> > >
> > > Friedrich Brunzema
> > > Extreme Programmer & Coach
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >







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