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Re: FW: Difficulties writing stories: msg#00102

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Subject: Re: FW: Difficulties writing stories


Hi Kent,

user story "migrate the database" is exactly what we are doing at the moment! We're going from SQLite to MySQL. We decided to call the user story: "Copy asset from home device to connected multimedia device". The devices are actually using the new database and the fact that the asset is copied shows the customer the user story really works. This customer also writes acceptance tests in CPPUnit, which makes it easier to accept intermediate results, not shown on the device. That's of course not possible with non-coding customers.

On an other project (abiss.sourceforge.net) we develop an Linux device driver. The driver tries to guarantee throughput when reading a file from harddisk. Not really an XP project but we do use user stories (a.o. practices). At the time these user stories we're really 'geekie' but with hindsight we could have done better. The reason for this driver is to be able to play video or audio files without hick-ups. So a better user story would have been. Play "this_movie.mpg" without hick-ups. Checking for hick-ups in the playout of a movie is hard to automate. Also in this case the customer wrote a program, which read a file with a specific datarate and checked whether the data was on time. He was happy with the text output (confirmation) generated by the program.

Main idea is to generate some visual confirmation, which can also be checked automatically so that even the most geekie stuff works.

Cheers,
Erik Bos
Philips Research









kent beck <kentb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

24-11-2004 07:39
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David,

Typically the questioner is a technical person who wants to continue treating "migrate the database" and similar geek-oriented items as progress.

Kent Beck
Three Rivers Institute

-----Original Message-----
From: david hussman <david.hussman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Nov 22, 2004 2:03 PM
To: xpbookdiscussiongroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: FW: [xpe2e] Difficulties writing stories

I deal with this often, and coaching the
customer community is near to my heart. Before I go further, can you clarify
who is the “you” in your question? It sounds like a customer proxy
question but I want to make sure before mouthing off

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