Re: eastern/zen/gongfu and XP

Ron Jeffries writes:
>
> I become more and more sure that XP is /not/ "do
> these N things all the
> time". Yet I remain strong in the feeling that there
> is a "thing" that I'm
> doing.
>
>

and Forrest Chang  writes:

>   I see this related to the shu ha ri thing,
> beginner's need the guidelines, skilled practioners do
> not.  Thoughts at the skilled level can be not
> applicable to the beginner and sometimes confusing.
>

This sounds a lot like the 3 levels of listening model as well.
You see it all the time when a person is developing skills.

At level 1, there are definitely "things" we do.  It's the recipe
that is used to introduce us to the activity.  We follow the recipe
consistently and eventually want to vary the recipe (level 2).
Eventually you evolve to level 3 where you are not really
conscious of the specific detailed decisions you are making,
you are "just doing it" - you are a guru/master in the skill.

You can read more on the wiki at

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ThreeLevelsOfAudience

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