Re: Practice: Pair Programming

If you feel the topic is sufficiently important to mention, then
shouldn't it have its own section? I feel grouping it with pairing
clouds the point you are making about pairing.

IMHO the pair programming section should cover "what is it?", and "why do it?".

I would introduce a separate section to cover the social aspects that
relate to working closely with others in a team, It could contain all
the 'make sure you don't smell', 'respect other peoples opinions and
rights', 'communicate in a non-threaterning tone', etc... issues.

Just my thoughts, 

Nigel Thorne

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:55:28 -0800, Kent Beck 
<kentb-ihVZJaRskl1bRRN4PJnoQQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  I wanted to address the issue of inappropriate feelings in the
>  workplace, and pairing provided a convenient place to put the
>  discussion. XP and pair programming didn't create the problem of
>  sexuality in the workplace. Pairing, however, can accentuate the
>  problem: two people, physical proximity, shared success. Unfortunately,
>  Prof. Williams' book ignores the issue altogether.
>  
>  I agree that people could use this paragraph as an excuse to dismiss XP,
>  but in the past five years I've seen much more inventive ways of
>  dismissing XP. On balance, I think the book is more valuable to XP by
>  addressing the issue head on. Leaving it out won't prevent criticism and
>  putting it in encourages team members to improve their collective
>  performance by tackling the problem.
>  
>  Kent Beck
>  Three Rivers Institute 
> 
> 
>  
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: William Pietri 
> [mailto:william-JnOFOPmZhjNBDgjK7y7TUQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>  > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:13 PM
>  > To: xpbookdiscussiongroup-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  > Subject: Re: [xpe2e] Practice: Pair Programming
>  > 
>  > > Working effectively together feels good. It may be a new
>  > experience in
>  > > the workplace for some. When programmers aren't emotionally mature
>  > > enough to separate approval from arousal, working with a
>  > person of the
>  > > opposite gender can bring up sexual feelings that are not
>  > in the best
>  > > interest of the team.
>  > 
>  > When I read this in the preprint, I wondered if this paragraph really
>  > belonged in here. This strikes me as a potential problem in any team 
>  > situation, and it seems odd to me to suggest that Pair Programming is 
>  > particularly riskier than any other team activity. My fear is not only
>  
>  > that people will get the wrong idea about XP, but also people with a 
>  > bias against XP will use this paragraph to fight against an XP 
>  > adoption.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > > If you are uncomfortable pairing with someone on the team,
>  > talk about
>  > > it with someone safe; a respected team member, a manager,
>  > or someone
>  > > in human resources. If you aren't comfortable, the team
>  > isn't doing as
>  > > well as it could. And chances are others are uncomfortable too.
>  > 
>  > I'd also add that it's worth talking with the team member with whom
>  > one is uncomfortable.
>  
>  
> 
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