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Galloway Versus the Senate

Is George Galloway Antisemitic?

As Stan Goff points out (herein below) in his "An Open Letter to U.S.
Democratic Elected Officials" British MP George Galloway speaks as an
opposition to the U.S. Congress, essentially as a proxy for what Democrats
should be doing. And I agreed with most of what George Galloway said there
and in other forums about U.S. war policy but I also can't help but be a
little uncomfortable with George Galloway's incessant acerbic and
acrimonious attacks on Israel. I realize that Israel is not immune to
criticism and I have also been very critical of Israeli policy at times.
But I am also concerned when someone (anyone) says to Saddam Hussein that
he hopes he will be successful defeating the enemy "all the way to
Jerusalem." That is an implication that Israel is the enemy and proximate
cause of the problem between Arabs and the West. It isn't -- and George
Galloway's remarks imply a serious deficiency in his understanding of the
relationship between Israel and the other Arab states -- a lack of
understanding which seems all too prevalent on the left, even among those
who seem to be enlightened about other miscarriages of justice and wrong
history. This is too often a fault one finds on the left side of politics.
And I realize there will be those here reading this who will say I am the
one who is wrong. Well, perhaps the fault lies with people like me for not
explaining why Israel must be defended better than we are doing now and
why it is not the crux of the proplem and why there is a double standard
where Israel is concerned and this attitude is a disservice to the truth
and to justice. I try to explain the case for Israel - See the Archives
(below) and bookmark that index for articles which I believe may present a
view not well understood nor widely read by the left. There are other
Jewish progressives who do present these ideas and I reference them in
articles in the archives. Go to the archives where you will find
information; the truth and refutations of many of the myths and also why
Jews are concerned about the welfare of Israel in a world where
antisemitism is still very real for us. George Galloway is not right about
Israel, but he is right on about Bush and that criminal regime in
Washington and America's ignoble history.

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Re: Is George Galloway Antisemitic?

||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Progressive News & Views (since 1982) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From: warren greer <warrengreer@xxxxxxxxx> It is true that "defeating the enemy all the way to Jerusalem" is an anti-Semitic statement. It is to be hoped that that statement doesn't qualify him as a committed anti-Semite, however. There are many attitudes, acts, and remarks which are mis-characterizations, malaprops, untruths, and just plain ignorant opinions -- all of which must be exposed, as you have done very well, without exiling the source into the ranks of the enemy. Galloway is one such. We must call him on his errors, but, Halelujah!, how I rejoiced in the skill with which he weilded the sword of Truth! His English (not always the most beautiful of languages,) verged on the invective poetry of Juvenal! If Dennis Kucinich had his skill and the voting wasn't counted crooked, we might have a real president now instead of Barbara Bush's pet Doberman. To sum up, I would recommend a thorough effort to educate Galloway, rather than to abandon him to the fascists who would be the ones who would really rejoice at the failure of Israel to found a multi-ethnic, multi-religious, secular democracy in the land between Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan. Warren http://pnews.org/news/index.php/GallowayVersusSenate __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ----- / o o \ ===OO=====OO========================== http://pnews.org/archives/ ====================================== To subscribe/unsub to fightback, send subscribe or unsub in subject line to: fightback-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ====================================== http://up-yours.us - Fight the Right! ======================================

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U.S. ABM Base in Poland

||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Progressive News & Views (since 1982) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From: "(PNEWS)" <pnews@xxxxxxxxx> USA plans to deploy ABM base in Poland to control Europe 11/18/2005 17:28 The Nobel Prize in geography was given to George W. Bush for his ability to learn the names of several Arab and Mideastern countries The USA is ready to build ABM bases beyond its territory. An official spokesman for the Pentagon said that the USA had started active consultations on the matter with the government of Poland. The Polish authorities in their turn have already agreed to let the USA deploy one of its bases on Poland's territory. air defense German magazine Spiegel wrote on November 17 with reference to the anonymous official from the Pentagon that the USA was launching official negotiations with Poland regarding the question of deploying ABM systems on the territory of this country in Eastern Europe. According to the official, the base will protect Western Europe from ballistic missiles, which could be launched from Mideastern states. The Polish Prime Minister Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz confirmed the fact of the talks with the USA. The head of the Polish government said that it was a highly important question for Poland, which touched upon both the country's security and cooperation with an important ally. This bring up a popular joke to mind: "The Nobel Prize in geography was given to George W. Bush for his ability to learn the names of several Arab and Mideastern countries." This joke probably describes Pentagon officials' knowledge of geography too. Where is the Middle East and Northern Africa, and where is Poland? The Czech Republic and Hungary were other candidates to house a US army base, but Poland apparently evinced more interest in the USA's offer. However, both the Czech and the Hungarians live very far from the Middle East too. One may thus infer that the USA has absolutely different objectives in its initiative. The USSR pulled out from Eastern Europe quite a while ago, that is why the USA intends to establish its presence in the region now. The new Polish president hopes to develop close cooperation with the USA too. However, it was not only Russia that expressed concerns about the USA's military plans in Poland: France and Germany set out their worries on the matter as well. "It goes about the spheres of influence. The USA needs a new stronghold instead of Germany, whereas Poland needs to retrieve its leading positions in Eastern Europe. The USA and Poland have similar interests," specialists form the History Department of the Moscow State University told Pravda.Ru. "This is not the global, but the national system, that is why there will be a lot of malcontent people. It does not touch upon Russia's interests only, it is a highly important matter for Western Europe too. This base may seriously damage Poland's reputation in Europe too," a Polish general said in an interview with the Wyborcza newspaper. Another Polish newspaper, Rzeczpospolita, wrote that the talks about the USA's plans to deploy an ABM base in Poland originally started in 2002, when Lech Kaczynski, the newly elected President of Poland, did not even exist in Poland's big politics. The former Polish President, Aleksander Kwasniewsky, was trying to balance between Washington and Brussels. When the USA deployed its troops in Iraq, Kwasniewsky did nothing that could irritate Germany and France. Lech Kaczynski in his turn stated long before his pre-election campaign that he would try to cooperate with the USA more actively. As soon as the new Polish administration took the pro-US position, the talks about the date to withdraw the Polish contingent from Iraq subsided quickly, although Kwasniewsky promised to do it before the end of the current year. Poland remained the only country, which did not deny the existence of CIA's secret prisons on its territory, although the EU administration threatened to take serious measures at this point. The director of the center for economic and political research and developments, Vladimir Razuvayev, believes that Poland's current behavior in international politics reminds the rules of the Cold War period. "One could expect it from the political point of view. Poland asks for help from its ally and promises to let it use its territory in return. This is what Soviet and American allies used to do during the Cold War era. They can find a variety of explanations for such a decision - the need to struggle against international terrorism, the nuclear program of Iran and so on and so forth," the scientist said. "There is definitely the moment of hidden anti-Russian agenda here. Poland is eager to become the leader in the region instead of Russia. Russia will protest against the deployment of the ABM base in Poland, of course, but nobody will listen to us," Vladimir Razuvayev said. Vadim Trukhachev http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/365/16491_Poland.html // eompost 43AC304E:718.1:svtugonpx ----- / o o \ ===OO=====OO========================== http://pnews.org/archives/ ====================================== To subscribe/unsub to fightback, send subscribe or unsub in subject line to: fightback-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ====================================== http://up-yours.us - Fight the Right! ======================================

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