Re: I just subscribed to CounterPunch

Now we all know Lacny is not going to go whup Nader's ass. For one thing, we
know Ralph could take him out with one power-packed blow.

What the chorus who continue to scream for an '04 third party effort need to
hear is that their position is based on principle, not because there is any
kind of demand for it in society.

The best outcome would be a vote total of less than 1% , leaving a bunch of
campaigners who will disperse in demoralization, years before '08. In other
words, in terms of shoring up the left, a Nader run would be the greater
evil.

Alternatively, if lefties in the anti-Bush effort continue to push the key
issues, like militarism and national health care, there is a basis for
renewed action after the election, whoever wins. [I doubt Kerry can beat
Bush, but that's out of our hands.]

I don't think any Nader effort could seriously undercut Kerry/Edwards. But
there is still a deep, widespread belief that the Nader Greens handed '00 to
Bush. Folks don't want a third party this year, and don't trust
third-partisans to be anything but spoilers. Hence, the strongest
groundswell for a lesser evil since '32.

Sit out the election if you want--it won't make any difference. But don't
make opposing the Democrats a splitting issue. Heap scorn on the ABB crowd
and the result will be a polarization within the left that will take decades
to fix.

ethan young
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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [marxist] I just subscribed to CounterPunch


> Somehow, the concept of "labor thug" leaps to mind.
> Hopefully, you are just joking.
>
> best
> sam
> John Lacny <jlacny@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >Levenstein:
> >
> >> By running an article by Ralph Nader rebutting the
> >> Nation's demand that he not mount an independent
> >> Presidential campaign, CounterPunch has proved
> >> once again that it won't bow to demands by liberals
> >
> >Hey, don't forget the "Stalinists," like me.
> >
> >People with an accurate medium-term memory will recall that the last time
Nader ran, he was adamant in the demand that he be allowed into the debates.
If he runs this time, it might be a good move on his part to prioritize (not
that he'd have shown himself to be very good at that anyway) by first making
the demand that he receive adequate Secret Service protection. Just a little
bit of unsolicited advice, I know.
> >
> >
> >
> >- - - - -
> >John Lacny
> >
> >People of the US, unite and defeat the Bush regime and all its running
dogs!
> >
>
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