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Re: French fascism's disturbing resurgence: msg#00175

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Subject: Re: French fascism's disturbing resurgence

-Having written a few articles in the left press about France I can
only agree with Armand's comments.

Yes we did not foresee the catastophe.


Neither did anyone else.

The point now is not just ths vote in the second tour but what is
happening now.

Reports on the telly this morning talk of tens of thousands out on
the streets on huge manifs. Talk on my E-Mail is of demos in
solidarity.


Le Pen: Fripouille! Le Peuple aura ton cul!


Andrew Coates

-- In marxist@xxxx, "causebellum" <causebellum@xxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> > reminds me a little too much of the "After Hitler, Us"
enthusiasms
> of the
> > Third Period. Perhaps we could be cheering on "polarization"
> if ...
>
> Nope, nothing of the sort. I just established a fact, an objective
> fact. What you say is needed is needed, but those are tasks, and I
> was just characterizing the situation. As to Chirac taking up some
> of the points from Le Pen: he had been doing that for the last 8
> years. He will continue to do that depending of how much Le Pen
> resonates with the electorate. If Le Pen, as many expects, does
not
> do any better than now (17-20%), Chirac will have to turn to more
> Liberal phraseology to attract left, liberal and conservative
voters
> who are not fascist. We'll see where he goes in a few days.
>
> As to left unity, should have happened before the elections. It
> strikes me - I read most of the left newspapers from France - that
> not a single left group in France, or for that matter in Europe
> warned against Le Pen and explained the polarization process. I
only
> read about it in a left newspaper ... in the US!
>
> Polarization has two sides to it, for now the upper hand is in the
> hands of imperialism, but it is getting better, that was my point.
> There still grave dangers, but still does not change the fact that
it
> is better than the weeks following 9/11.
>
> And yes, we need an alternative to take advantage of this new
> situation, otherwise we will all go to hell (that is
polarization).
> For that, we need a new left.
>
> Armand


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