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Anti-Semitism and Suicide Bombers: msg#00174politics.marxism.analysis
The basis issue is this, people on the Left who condone anti-Semitism are not only immoral but also are creating impediments to Palestinian liberation from the occupation. It's a political issue. "AS far as suicide bombers go, I'll tell you what I said to the last person who brought it up. I'm not interested in judging from my computer screen how the Palestinian people resist genocide." The idea that the ends always justifies the means is a Stalinist formulation. In the end, morality aside, the greater military power of Israel and the U.S. or the two roles of these states in determining what happens in the immediate context dictates that the most important pressures will be in the so-called "civil society." The space for such interventions shrinks with every suicide bomb. The idea that we can't "second guess" what Palestinians do in the name of liberation reminds me of those who say we shouldn't "second guess" Sharon who claims to be defending Israelis by going into the West Bank. The fact is the "anti-Zionist" Left is second guessing all the time, only they are often selective about this. The selection is partly warranted by Israeli policies, but also party hipocritical. If the civil society option dies out, then the likely result will be mass slaughter, no matter what we think, prefer or believe. Furthermore, the use of violence in creating a state (whether Israeli or Palestinian or American) is often the "original sin" that colors what happens latter. Violence may or may not be unavoidable for historical reasons but if one lacks a theory of how to get what one wants without it, you're doomed to the cycle of violence, Bush militarism, Bin Ladenism, etc., unless you have some kind of successionist impulse that empowers the civilian population with accountability and controls. These don't automatically come from violence. Thus, Simone Weil was skeptical about the use of violence in Algeria and how it would influence the future course of that society. Of course, political interventionism, colonialism, etc. leads to violence but the Left project has been corrupted by its failure to maintain checks on violence, that's a history that seems to inform Said's writings and if he can condemn suicide bombers I don't see why it is such a controversal move. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/B140lB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> "[C]apital comes dripping from head to foot, from every pore, with blood and dirt." --Marx, Capital, Vol. 1, Chapter 31 Community email addresses: Post message: marxist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subscribe: marxist-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Unsubscribe: marxist-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx List owner: jplst15+@xxxxxxxx Shortcut URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marxist Also take our one-question survey at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marxist/polls Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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