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Sorry, I understand now. (I have never used Emacs in this mode, and I have used Emacs for nearly 20 years.)



On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Jay McCarthy wrote:

I think Keiko wants to "undock" the interactions window like you can
with the search or test dialogs. That way it is possible to use
Alt-Tab to switch between rather than DrS keys.

I think the other features give you the same thing, but I don't think
this particular feature exists.

Jay

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Matthias Felleisen
<matthias@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Keiko Nakata wrote:

What I am suggesting gives you a way to have a full screen Interactions
window and a full screen Definitions window that you can jump between
with one (compound) keystroke. That seems to be what you're asking for.

Indeed. I see your point.
Actually I just have to resize the window;
how many frames I have, I can not have a bigger window in total than the
screen :D

I used to use emacs for Scheme and I don't quite understand your request.

Like Emacs,
-- DrScheme allows full-screen size
-- you can split the window horizontally or vertically
-- you can navigate back and forth (though I admit that emacs is easier, to
this day)
-- you can move the 'navigation' panel to the top or to the side (I don't
even know whether emacs can have a status bar on the side)

Since we wish to accommodate users as much as possible, we really appreciate
precise descriptions. Thanks. -- Matthias

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Re: [plt-scheme] a separate window for interactions

I think Keiko wants to "undock" the interactions window like you can with the search or test dialogs. That way it is possible to use Alt-Tab to switch between rather than DrS keys. I think the other features give you the same thing, but I don't think this particular feature exists. Jay On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Matthias Felleisen <matthias@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Keiko Nakata wrote: > >>> What I am suggesting gives you a way to have a full screen Interactions >>> window and a full screen Definitions window that you can jump between >>> with one (compound) keystroke.  That seems to be what you're asking for. >> >> Indeed. I see your point. >> Actually I just have to resize the window; >> how many frames I have, I can not have a bigger window in total than the >> screen :D > > I used to use emacs for Scheme and I don't quite understand your request. > > Like Emacs, >  -- DrScheme allows full-screen size >  -- you can split the window horizontally or vertically >  -- you can navigate back and forth (though I admit that emacs is easier, to > this day) >  -- you can move the 'navigation' panel to the top or to the side (I don't > even know whether emacs can have a status bar on the side) > > Since we wish to accommodate users as much as possible, we really appreciate > precise descriptions. Thanks. -- Matthias > > _________________________________________________ >  For list-related administrative tasks: >  http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-scheme > -- Jay McCarthy <jay@xxxxxxxxxx> Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://teammccarthy.org/jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _________________________________________________ For list-related administrative tasks: http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-scheme

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> I think Keiko wants to "undock" the interactions window like you can > with the search or test dialogs. That way it is possible to use > Alt-Tab to switch between rather than DrS keys. Yes. Thanks for a clear description! Keiko _________________________________________________ For list-related administrative tasks: http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-scheme

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I think Keiko wants to "undock" the interactions window like you can with the search or test dialogs. That way it is possible to use Alt-Tab to switch between rather than DrS keys. I think the other features give you the same thing, but I don't think this particular feature exists. Jay On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Matthias Felleisen <matthias@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Keiko Nakata wrote: > >>> What I am suggesting gives you a way to have a full screen Interactions >>> window and a full screen Definitions window that you can jump between >>> with one (compound) keystroke.  That seems to be what you're asking for. >> >> Indeed. I see your point. >> Actually I just have to resize the window; >> how many frames I have, I can not have a bigger window in total than the >> screen :D > > I used to use emacs for Scheme and I don't quite understand your request. > > Like Emacs, >  -- DrScheme allows full-screen size >  -- you can split the window horizontally or vertically >  -- you can navigate back and forth (though I admit that emacs is easier, to > this day) >  -- you can move the 'navigation' panel to the top or to the side (I don't > even know whether emacs can have a status bar on the side) > > Since we wish to accommodate users as much as possible, we really appreciate > precise descriptions. Thanks. -- Matthias > > _________________________________________________ >  For list-related administrative tasks: >  http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-scheme > -- Jay McCarthy <jay@xxxxxxxxxx> Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://teammccarthy.org/jay "The glory of God is Intelligence" - D&C 93 _________________________________________________ For list-related administrative tasks: http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-scheme

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Re: [plt-scheme] a separate window for interactions

One of the Quack options is to have a window for the REPL buffer with a dedicated (desktop window system) frame. Emacs will then not use this frame for any purpose other than the REPL. I think I first saw something that in ILISP. I usually use it to, e.g., make a very wide or very narrow REPL frame on my desktop, while keeping my code frames a standard 80 columns wide. Leaves more space on desktop for shell and Web browser windows. Tile as much as practical, rather than overlap. This is especially important now that PLT has moved to the Web browser for documentation and the page layout is currently rather greedy with horizontal real estate. So, an undockable Interactions window in DrScheme would be nice, as would documentation layout that doesn't want a window wider than the body text. Variable width of the body text flow would help too. Matthias Felleisen wrote at 09/24/2009 09:41 AM: Sorry, I understand now. (I have never used Emacs in this mode, and I have used Emacs for nearly 20 years.) On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Jay McCarthy wrote: I think Keiko wants to "undock" the interactions window like you can with the search or test dialogs. That way it is possible to use Alt-Tab to switch between rather than DrS keys. I think the other features give you the same thing, but I don't think this particular feature exists. _________________________________________________ For list-related administrative tasks: http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-scheme
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