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On 6/11/06, imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So now I know that ezmlm can use MySQL database. If there is
anything I can help, I would be glad to offer in order to reduce the
spam. (Although I'm not good at ezmlm.)

ezmlm doesn't use a database, but ecelerity does.

Now I know this list is not abandoned. I apologize to the people
that work on this. But I would be appreciated if there will be someone
listed as the list administrator on the website or in the List-* mail
header and will reply no mather the problem is solved or not.

We respond based on the severity; a bit more spam getting through
doesn't warrant immediate attention, whereas the mail stopping completely
does.

I
understand people are voluntary here, but asking a same question several
times for months without a single reply still make me frustrating.

We do read the lists and we are capable of noticing problems like
increased spam levels and so forth. In addition, we have monitoring
infrastructure that
pages people (usually me) when problems are detected. In light of
this recent problem, we'll be enhancing that infrastructure further.

We have an elaborate set up that blocks most of the spam before it
hits the mailing list, performs challenge-response authentication for
previously unknown senders and applies a variety of other anti-spam
techniques, while maintaining good throughput and a sane CPU load.
We're doing a good job at filtering the lists while still allowing
them to be useful for our diverse community.

We do all of this in our spare time (and in the middle of the night as
and when we get paged), without credit, so you'll have to forgive us
if we don't respond to statements like "there is spam on the list".

--Wez.



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Re: Japanese spam

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:03:57 -0700 Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > imacat wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:42:53 -0400 > > "Wez Furlong" <kingwez@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > header and will reply no mather the problem is solved or not. I > > understand people are voluntary here, but asking a same question several > > times for months without a single reply still make me frustrating. > Months? This has only been a problem for a bit over a week. And we do > watch the lists, but it isn't always easy to fix stuff. Oh. Apparently someone has lost my mails. In my records the earliest spam into PECL-DEV can be traced back to 2005-10-11. Early spams are dropped, sorry. Here are that spam and my reports. Also, in Feborary 2006 there are many English spam get into this list. Forwarded by imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: PECL Developers <pecl-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 09:53:43 +0800 Subject: Re: [PECL-DEV] äå ---- Is this PECL-DEV list postable by the world? Can PECL-DEV set to member-only? Who is administrating this PECL-DEV list anyway? Who should I send this problem to? On Tue, 9 May 2006 02:39:52 +0800 ääæ <alldfsj@xxxxxxxx> wrote: --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- Forwarded by imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: PECL Developers <pecl-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, pecl-dev-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:47:40 +0800 Subject: Re: [PECL-DEV] fashion products ---- Why is this mail come into this this? Could the list administrator block it please? This sender has sent 10 spam to PECL-DEV last month (2006-02). On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:27:58 +0800 2006-02-22 17:27:58 <business@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- Forwarded by imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: PECL Developers <pecl-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:59:09 +0800 Subject: Re: [PECL-DEV] winter jacket ---- Dear whoever, Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this list (PECL-DEV) member-only? On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 05:12:41 +0800 2006-01-09 05:12:41 <business@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- Forwarded by imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: KOKOçåäå <dm_71_0174@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pecl-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 06:21:13 +0800 Subject: [PECL-DEV] åçæçååïèéççèååçæï ---- ããéåååäèççåæååçåææääïèåäæïäååééååãåè æåääææçèåççåïäåäåååäïååéåååïåææçäèåç åïåååéåæååèïååååçååéååéïâåæåïåæåïâ --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> PGP Key: http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.txt <<Woman's Voice>> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's: http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ TLUG List Manager: http://lists.linux.org.tw/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tlug pgpKhxnvtt64p.pgp Description: PGP signature

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Re: Japanese spam

To answer your question, no, the lists are not subscriber-only because many people read these lists via the nntp interface at news.php.net. But if it is your first post to the list you have to go through a verification step. The odd spam is going to get through. We get thousands of spam attempts and block the vast majority. You are complaining about spam in Feb.2006. So let's review that. Here is the complete list of spam that got through that month: Feb.3 Subject: replica specially for you Feb.6 Subject: CLOTHES Feb.10 Subject: bape goods Feb.11 Subject: supply juicy couture sets Feb.17 Subject: lovely SEVEN Jeans Feb.19 Subject: Hot jeans Feb.20 Subject: 2ææåæåççéèçè Feb.21 Subject: äååççäéèæææåèç Feb.22 Subject: fashion products Feb.22 Subject: dunk $25 shipped Feb.24 Subject: add my msn Feb.24 Subject: äååççäéèæææåèç Feb.28 Subject: éçèååæèæåäççååèç Feb.28 Subject: 100% Customs clear Guarantee now!!!!!!! So while I agree that this was not a good month for the spam filters, please put it in perspective. That's 14 messages that got through over the course of a month. And it's not like a virus got through. So, if you can't handle the odd spam message getting through every couple of days which will take you a split-second to delete, please unsubscribe from the lists. -Rasmus imacat wrote: On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:03:57 -0700 Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: imacat wrote: On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:42:53 -0400 "Wez Furlong" <kingwez@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: header and will reply no mather the problem is solved or not. I understand people are voluntary here, but asking a same question several times for months without a single reply still make me frustrating. Months? This has only been a problem for a bit over a week. And we do watch the lists, but it isn't always easy to fix stuff. Oh. Apparently someone has lost my mails. In my records the earliest spam into PECL-DEV can be traced back to 2005-10-11. Early spams are dropped, sorry. Here are that spam and my reports. Also, in Feborary 2006 there are many English spam get into this list. Forwarded by imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: PECL Developers <pecl-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 09:53:43 +0800 Subject: Re: [PECL-DEV] äå ---- Is this PECL-DEV list postable by the world? Can PECL-DEV set to member-only? Who is administrating this PECL-DEV list anyway? Who should I send this problem to? On Tue, 9 May 2006 02:39:52 +0800 ääæ <alldfsj@xxxxxxxx> wrote: --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- Forwarded by imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: PECL Developers <pecl-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, pecl-dev-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:47:40 +0800 Subject: Re: [PECL-DEV] fashion products ---- Why is this mail come into this this? Could the list administrator block it please? This sender has sent 10 spam to PECL-DEV last month (2006-02). On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:27:58 +0800 2006-02-22 17:27:58 <business@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- Forwarded by imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: PECL Developers <pecl-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:59:09 +0800 Subject: Re: [PECL-DEV] winter jacket ---- Dear whoever, Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this list (PECL-DEV) member-only? On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 05:12:41 +0800 2006-01-09 05:12:41 <business@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- Forwarded by imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: KOKOçåäå <dm_71_0174@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pecl-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 06:21:13 +0800 Subject: [PECL-DEV] åçæçååïèéççèååçæï ---- ããéåååäèççåæååçåææääïèåäæïäååééååãåè æåääææçèåççåïäåäåååäïååéåååïåææçäèåç åïåååéåæååèïååååçååéååéïâåæåïåæåïâ --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> PGP Key: http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.txt <<Woman's Voice>> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's: http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ TLUG List Manager: http://lists.linux.org.tw/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tlug

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To answer your question, no, the lists are not subscriber-only because many people read these lists via the nntp interface at news.php.net. But if it is your first post to the list you have to go through a verification step. The odd spam is going to get through. We get thousands of spam attempts and block the vast majority. You are complaining about spam in Feb.2006. So let's review that. Here is the complete list of spam that got through that month: Feb.3 Subject: replica specially for you Feb.6 Subject: CLOTHES Feb.10 Subject: bape goods Feb.11 Subject: supply juicy couture sets Feb.17 Subject: lovely SEVEN Jeans Feb.19 Subject: Hot jeans Feb.20 Subject: 2ææåæåççéèçè Feb.21 Subject: äååççäéèæææåèç Feb.22 Subject: fashion products Feb.22 Subject: dunk $25 shipped Feb.24 Subject: add my msn Feb.24 Subject: äååççäéèæææåèç Feb.28 Subject: éçèååæèæåäççååèç Feb.28 Subject: 100% Customs clear Guarantee now!!!!!!! So while I agree that this was not a good month for the spam filters, please put it in perspective. That's 14 messages that got through over the course of a month. And it's not like a virus got through. So, if you can't handle the odd spam message getting through every couple of days which will take you a split-second to delete, please unsubscribe from the lists. -Rasmus imacat wrote: On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:03:57 -0700 Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: imacat wrote: On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:42:53 -0400 "Wez Furlong" <kingwez@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: header and will reply no mather the problem is solved or not. I understand people are voluntary here, but asking a same question several times for months without a single reply still make me frustrating. Months? This has only been a problem for a bit over a week. And we do watch the lists, but it isn't always easy to fix stuff. Oh. Apparently someone has lost my mails. In my records the earliest spam into PECL-DEV can be traced back to 2005-10-11. Early spams are dropped, sorry. Here are that spam and my reports. Also, in Feborary 2006 there are many English spam get into this list. Forwarded by imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: PECL Developers <pecl-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 09:53:43 +0800 Subject: Re: [PECL-DEV] äå ---- Is this PECL-DEV list postable by the world? Can PECL-DEV set to member-only? Who is administrating this PECL-DEV list anyway? Who should I send this problem to? On Tue, 9 May 2006 02:39:52 +0800 ääæ <alldfsj@xxxxxxxx> wrote: --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- Forwarded by imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: PECL Developers <pecl-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, pecl-dev-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:47:40 +0800 Subject: Re: [PECL-DEV] fashion products ---- Why is this mail come into this this? Could the list administrator block it please? This sender has sent 10 spam to PECL-DEV last month (2006-02). On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:27:58 +0800 2006-02-22 17:27:58 <business@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- Forwarded by imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: PECL Developers <pecl-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:59:09 +0800 Subject: Re: [PECL-DEV] winter jacket ---- Dear whoever, Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this list (PECL-DEV) member-only? On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 05:12:41 +0800 2006-01-09 05:12:41 <business@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- Forwarded by imacat <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: KOKOçåäå <dm_71_0174@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pecl-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 06:21:13 +0800 Subject: [PECL-DEV] åçæçååïèéççèååçæï ---- ããéåååäèççåæååçåææääïèåäæïäååééååãåè æåääææçèåççåïäåäåååäïååéåååïåææçäèåç åïåååéåæååèïååååçååéååéïâåæåïåæåïâ --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' <imacat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> PGP Key: http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.txt <<Woman's Voice>> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's: http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ TLUG List Manager: http://lists.linux.org.tw/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tlug

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