Re: PDO and pear install

Wez Furlong wrote:

> Greg Beaver wrote:
>
> > Mika Tuupola wrote:
> >
> > >     http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.pdo.php
> > >
> > >     What is the bug why PDO won't install by using pear installer?
> Check the pear core archives, I reported it several times over the 
> months.
> The bug is that "pear install" doesn't run "make install".
I found the mails - the main problem here was that no bug was ever 
opened in the bug tracker.  I like to think that I have a superhuman 
memory, but that is clearly not even close to true.  Please, the more we 
can work together on this the better.  I will try to fix this ASAP.
> > I have no idea.  It would be kind of good if I had some idea, as I 
> > have been known to fix things from time to time.  Wez, and all 
> > others, I have made some HUGE changes to the way pecl works in PEAR 
> > 1.4.0.  Please get off your respective couches and look at them 
> > before it is too late and 
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> I find that comment particularly offensive.
>
> I'm up to my ears with work and development of PDO.  It's just not 
> physically possible to find more time to investigate the new PEAR.
> > Here's the thing.  If you want PECL packages to be installed 
> > differently, that would be fine, you can rewrite everything to use 
> > Wez's pickle tool (or whatever tool of choice makes sense), or you 
> > can get in gear and make sure PEAR works for PECL as well as it works 
> > for PEAR.
> I don't like your tone, Greg.  I understand that your frustrated at 
> the lack of feedback, but *come on*, you're just getting pissy now.
> I have no time, period.  If you don't like it, moan at someone else. 
Your reponse is understandable, I would likely say the same thing.  
Still, the fact holds that PEAR 1.4.0 alpha 1 is about to be released 
and if used right, it will completely transform the importance of PECL 
from a repository used by only linux developers to something even the 
most technically inept windows user can take advantage of.  PDO is 
crucially important, please don't think I expect you to divert your 
energies from this work right now, but do understand that PEAR 1.4.0 
could be equally important, and I have been asking for feedback since 
August 28, 2004 (search pear-core archives for "changes to package.xml 2.0")
We're working towards the same goals, I'm sorry that my comments are 
offensive, I mean no personal affront.
I did mean quite seriously this comment, not as a pissy aside: if PEAR 
is not the right tool for installing pecl packages, it would be very 
easy to implement another tool as a subpackage of PEAR - I've already 
separated the pear and pecl commands, they don't necessarily have to 
access the same code to run.  I like your pickle tool, and these things 
might end up being better for PECL in the short and long run.  It's a 
good time for devs to take a look at things and decide whether PEAR 
should stick with its strength (PHP packages) or improve one of its 
biggest weaknesses (PECL extension packages).
Greg