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Subject: Re: NuSOAP Rocks ! - msg#00028List: php.nusoap.generalI'm certainly in for helping out in any way I can. The work Scott has done is nothing short of phenomenal. I'm not so much concerned about improving NuSOAP as I am in building the community. I'm afraid that there are people out there that have no idea what they are missing! -- Greg On 11/2/07 6:33 PM, "Aaron Kreider" <aaron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I think having a new/improved nusoap website is a great idea for > improving the community around this library. I know that when I started > using it, I could have used some better documentation and would have > felt more confident that I could trust this library (that it would work, > that it would be maintained) if there had been a better and more up to > date website. And while I have it working, I only have a surface > knowledge of what nusoap can actually do. > > I'd suggest using a basic content management system, like Drupal (as I'm > most familiar with it), so users can create their own pages. You could > probably find volunteers to set it up, and/or administer it. You could > use sourceforge for releases, and the cms for other things. > > Bandwidth - would cost around $10/month. You could probably easily pay > for it by donations, or using Google AdSense. > > I think centering the community on a forum might be better than an email > list. Forums are better for threaded conversations. Though > transitioning might be a mess - in which case just keep the email list. > > Aaron > > Scott Nichol wrote: >>> - web space and bandwidth abound on sourceforge, and yet >>> http://nusoap.sourceforge.net is still an empty page >>> >> >> What would you like to see there? >> >> >>> - there where at least a couple of attempts to convince Scott to tag >>> and >>> dump version 0.7.3, everybody on the ml agreed, and yet the 'current' >>> version anybody can easily download is still 2 years old >>> >> >> Guilty as charged. Whenever I start into this, I am confronted with >> some failed tests that I must fix. I will again try to attack this. >> >> >>> - I don't need one more example of nusoap usage at all in some blog on >>> the opposite end of the intarweb that will soon get outdated, I need a >>> real manual, with both api specs, lots of use cases and a couple of >>> tutorials thrown in for good measure >>> >> >> Unless an angel appears, there is not enough bandwidth on the project >> for this. Any angels out there? >> >> >>> If people feel the need to contribute and have some spare time to >>> boot, >>> why not install a simple, open-to-all, wiki on nusoap.sourceforge.net, >>> and have the complete community contribute to that? >>> >> >> That would be fine with me, but I fear it would further fragment what >> little community there is. My community participation is through the >> mailing list. However, I get more direct e-mails from my web tutorials >> than through the list. I also get e-mails through sf.net. People also >> post to Tracker and Forums, neither of which I get to frequently, so >> those are little worlds unto themselves. I *should* try to disable some >> of the contact points sf sets up, but I barely have time to support what >> comes through my inbox. >> >> >>> love >>> Gaetano >>> >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I am happy to throw in some bandwidth and server space if required ! >>>> >>>> I will put at least one example, plus code and wsdl .. online for >>>> public consumption >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> On 02/11/2007, at 3:57 PM, Scott Nichol wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Great idea, Joe, and I will try to package the sample you sent in >>>>> some >>>>> way that it will be shared. >>>>> >>>>> Scott Nichol >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Joe Andolina" <jandolin@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: "Steve Farmer" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; >>>>> <nusoap-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:41 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Nusoap-general] NuSOAP Rocks ! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I think donating to charities is a great thing, but there is more >>>>>> you >>>>>> can do. Write a few tutorials or post more sample code. Show the >>>>>> community what you have learned or use patterns you have >>>>>> identified. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nusoap rocks, >>>>>> Joe >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------- >>>> BookingCenter.com http://www.bookingcenter.com >>>> the Internet way to manage and sell your property's inventory. >>>> >>>> US Office (707) 874-3922 - tel (718) 228-5959 - fax >>>> >>>> United Kingdom Office Tel 020 8133 7393 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >>>> Still grepping through log files to find problems? 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Stop. >> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. >> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Nusoap-general mailing list >> Nusoap-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nusoap-general >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Nusoap-general mailing list > Nusoap-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nusoap-general > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. 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Previous Message by Date: click to view message previewRe: NuSOAP Rocks !I think having a new/improved nusoap website is a great idea for improving the community around this library. I know that when I started using it, I could have used some better documentation and would have felt more confident that I could trust this library (that it would work, that it would be maintained) if there had been a better and more up to date website. And while I have it working, I only have a surface knowledge of what nusoap can actually do. I'd suggest using a basic content management system, like Drupal (as I'm most familiar with it), so users can create their own pages. You could probably find volunteers to set it up, and/or administer it. You could use sourceforge for releases, and the cms for other things. Bandwidth - would cost around $10/month. You could probably easily pay for it by donations, or using Google AdSense. I think centering the community on a forum might be better than an email list. Forums are better for threaded conversations. Though transitioning might be a mess - in which case just keep the email list. Aaron Scott Nichol wrote: >> - web space and bandwidth abound on sourceforge, and yet >> http://nusoap.sourceforge.net is still an empty page >> > > What would you like to see there? > > >> - there where at least a couple of attempts to convince Scott to tag >> and >> dump version 0.7.3, everybody on the ml agreed, and yet the 'current' >> version anybody can easily download is still 2 years old >> > > Guilty as charged. Whenever I start into this, I am confronted with > some failed tests that I must fix. I will again try to attack this. > > >> - I don't need one more example of nusoap usage at all in some blog on >> the opposite end of the intarweb that will soon get outdated, I need a >> real manual, with both api specs, lots of use cases and a couple of >> tutorials thrown in for good measure >> > > Unless an angel appears, there is not enough bandwidth on the project > for this. Any angels out there? > > >> If people feel the need to contribute and have some spare time to >> boot, >> why not install a simple, open-to-all, wiki on nusoap.sourceforge.net, >> and have the complete community contribute to that? >> > > That would be fine with me, but I fear it would further fragment what > little community there is. My community participation is through the > mailing list. However, I get more direct e-mails from my web tutorials > than through the list. I also get e-mails through sf.net. People also > post to Tracker and Forums, neither of which I get to frequently, so > those are little worlds unto themselves. I *should* try to disable some > of the contact points sf sets up, but I barely have time to support what > comes through my inbox. > > >> love >> Gaetano >> >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I am happy to throw in some bandwidth and server space if required ! >>> >>> I will put at least one example, plus code and wsdl .. online for >>> public consumption >>> >>> Steve >>> On 02/11/2007, at 3:57 PM, Scott Nichol wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Great idea, Joe, and I will try to package the sample you sent in >>>> some >>>> way that it will be shared. >>>> >>>> Scott Nichol >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Joe Andolina" <jandolin@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: "Steve Farmer" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; >>>> <nusoap-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:41 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Nusoap-general] NuSOAP Rocks ! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I think donating to charities is a great thing, but there is more >>>>> you >>>>> can do. Write a few tutorials or post more sample code. Show the >>>>> community what you have learned or use patterns you have >>>>> identified. >>>>> >>>>> Nusoap rocks, >>>>> Joe >>>>> >>>>> >>> ----------------------------------------- >>> BookingCenter.com http://www.bookingcenter.com >>> the Internet way to manage and sell your property's inventory. >>> >>> US Office (707) 874-3922 - tel (718) 228-5959 - fax >>> >>> United Kingdom Office Tel 020 8133 7393 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >>> Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >>> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a >>> browser. >>> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nusoap-general mailing list >>> Nusoap-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nusoap-general >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >> Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a >> browser. >> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Nusoap-general mailing list >> Nusoap-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nusoap-general >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Nusoap-general mailing list > Nusoap-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nusoap-general > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ Next Message by Date: click to view message previewRe: NuSOAP Rocks !> Forums are better for threaded conversations. Though transitioning > might be a mess - in which case just keep the email list. I completely agree. The other problem with the mail list is that so many threads move off-list, intentionally or not. If I can retire the list, I would be happy to move to a forum. Scott Nichol ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ Previous Message by Thread: click to view message previewRe: NuSOAP Rocks !I think having a new/improved nusoap website is a great idea for improving the community around this library. I know that when I started using it, I could have used some better documentation and would have felt more confident that I could trust this library (that it would work, that it would be maintained) if there had been a better and more up to date website. And while I have it working, I only have a surface knowledge of what nusoap can actually do. I'd suggest using a basic content management system, like Drupal (as I'm most familiar with it), so users can create their own pages. You could probably find volunteers to set it up, and/or administer it. You could use sourceforge for releases, and the cms for other things. Bandwidth - would cost around $10/month. You could probably easily pay for it by donations, or using Google AdSense. I think centering the community on a forum might be better than an email list. Forums are better for threaded conversations. Though transitioning might be a mess - in which case just keep the email list. Aaron Scott Nichol wrote: >> - web space and bandwidth abound on sourceforge, and yet >> http://nusoap.sourceforge.net is still an empty page >> > > What would you like to see there? > > >> - there where at least a couple of attempts to convince Scott to tag >> and >> dump version 0.7.3, everybody on the ml agreed, and yet the 'current' >> version anybody can easily download is still 2 years old >> > > Guilty as charged. Whenever I start into this, I am confronted with > some failed tests that I must fix. I will again try to attack this. > > >> - I don't need one more example of nusoap usage at all in some blog on >> the opposite end of the intarweb that will soon get outdated, I need a >> real manual, with both api specs, lots of use cases and a couple of >> tutorials thrown in for good measure >> > > Unless an angel appears, there is not enough bandwidth on the project > for this. Any angels out there? > > >> If people feel the need to contribute and have some spare time to >> boot, >> why not install a simple, open-to-all, wiki on nusoap.sourceforge.net, >> and have the complete community contribute to that? >> > > That would be fine with me, but I fear it would further fragment what > little community there is. My community participation is through the > mailing list. However, I get more direct e-mails from my web tutorials > than through the list. I also get e-mails through sf.net. People also > post to Tracker and Forums, neither of which I get to frequently, so > those are little worlds unto themselves. I *should* try to disable some > of the contact points sf sets up, but I barely have time to support what > comes through my inbox. > > >> love >> Gaetano >> >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I am happy to throw in some bandwidth and server space if required ! >>> >>> I will put at least one example, plus code and wsdl .. online for >>> public consumption >>> >>> Steve >>> On 02/11/2007, at 3:57 PM, Scott Nichol wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Great idea, Joe, and I will try to package the sample you sent in >>>> some >>>> way that it will be shared. >>>> >>>> Scott Nichol >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Joe Andolina" <jandolin@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: "Steve Farmer" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; >>>> <nusoap-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:41 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Nusoap-general] NuSOAP Rocks ! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I think donating to charities is a great thing, but there is more >>>>> you >>>>> can do. Write a few tutorials or post more sample code. Show the >>>>> community what you have learned or use patterns you have >>>>> identified. >>>>> >>>>> Nusoap rocks, >>>>> Joe >>>>> >>>>> >>> ----------------------------------------- >>> BookingCenter.com http://www.bookingcenter.com >>> the Internet way to manage and sell your property's inventory. >>> >>> US Office (707) 874-3922 - tel (718) 228-5959 - fax >>> >>> United Kingdom Office Tel 020 8133 7393 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >>> Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >>> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a >>> browser. >>> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nusoap-general mailing list >>> Nusoap-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nusoap-general >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >> Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a >> browser. >> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Nusoap-general mailing list >> Nusoap-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nusoap-general >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Nusoap-general mailing list > Nusoap-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nusoap-general > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ Next Message by Thread: click to view message previewRe: NuSOAP Rocks !> Forums are better for threaded conversations. Though transitioning > might be a mess - in which case just keep the email list. I completely agree. The other problem with the mail list is that so many threads move off-list, intentionally or not. If I can retire the list, I would be happy to move to a forum. Scott Nichol ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ Loading Comments...
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