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Re: Newbie in this OS concepts: msg#00040

Subject: Re: Newbie in this OS concepts
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 03:35:28PM -0300, Fortes Marcelo wrote:
>   >Yes, it's essentially like using libraries. There are still procedures
> >available to programs to do all the usual things, only they don't go in
> >to kernel space -- there is no kernel.
>    
>   It sounds like Exokernel Architecture to me.

No, an exokernel still has a kernel, but the functionality is run in
userspace. There is no "kernel". There is to "userspace". There are no
separate address spaces. There are no "processes". It is unlikely you
will find a single word describing this design, because the last
mainstream OS to use it was DOS. Of course Unununium's design contains a
fair bit more than DOS.

>   >Performance is always good. While initially performance was a greater
> >factor in Unununium's goals, now there are other goals (VM abstraction,
> >etc) that have become higher priority.
> 
>   Please where can i find goals list?

http://unununium.org/introduction

> >> -A graphic User Interface:
> >> Unununim seems to break the old vision and idea paradigm of an
> > desktop and retangled windows being openend to each application or
> >> directory in a file system. How can it be changed? How it will be
> >> acquived? there are some drawboards to ilustrate the new concepts?
> 
> >There are no drawboards, but probably there should be. There are however
> >a few programs which have desirable aspects. For example, the power of
> >bash, and it's absence of hunt-and-find, and the keyboard driven window
> >management of ion for x11.
>    
>   So what exactly have you in mind? you mentioned about Ion WM do you
>   are thinking on something like that? Ion to me is usefull only to
>   who wants use essentially keyboards. Bash can be very usefull "or
>   not", however to run it, i think will be necessary a Posix Emulation
>   Library.

No, nothing I have used is much like what I want. Rather, bash and ion
have *aspects* that I like. I like bash because there is no
scan-and-pick, no menus, no hidden views. I like ion because it doesn't
emulate a very small desk with piles of paper on it which can be
manipulated only with a long stick. I'm not saying these are the
programs Unununium should use, because for those aspects I like, there
are many more that I don't.



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