os.netbsd.devel.pkgsrc.user (thread)

net-snmp 5.4 dies on DragonFly, Petr Janda
- Re: net-snmp 5.4 dies on DragonFly, Matthias Scheler
  - Re: net-snmp 5.4 dies on DragonFly, Brian A. Seklecki
boost, Jan Danielsson
RFC: build framework for modular xorg GIT, Blair Sadewitz
can't compile graphics/glitz with modular xorg, Joel CARNAT
- Re: can't compile graphics/glitz with modular xorg, Blair Sadewitz
  - Re: Re: can't compile graphics/glitz with modular xorg, Joel CARNAT
    - Re: Re: can't compile graphics/glitz with modular xorg, Blair Sadewitz
modular xorg packages?, Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: modular xorg packages?, Sverre Froyen
- Re: modular xorg packages?, Chavdar Ivanov
upcoming anniversary, Hubert Feyrer
- Re: upcoming anniversary, Petr Janda
- Re: upcoming anniversary, Francisco Valladolid Hdez.
  - Re: upcoming anniversary, Hubert Feyrer
    - Re: upcoming anniversary, Francisco Valladolid Hdez.
  - Re: upcoming anniversary, Wouter Schoot
    - Re: upcoming anniversary, Blair Sadewitz
    - Re: upcoming anniversary, Gary Thorpe
    - Re: upcoming anniversary, adam
    - Re: upcoming anniversary, Tobias Nygren
    - Re: upcoming anniversary, Georg Schwarz
    - Re: upcoming anniversary, Jeremy C. Reed
    - Re: upcoming anniversary, Aleksey Cheusov
    - Re: upcoming anniversary, Jeremy C. Reed
    - Re: upcoming anniversary, Blair Sadewitz
security/mcrypt out of datw, Christian Sturm
- Re: security/mcrypt out of datw, Matthias Scheler
Solution to building subversion under MacOS X 10.3.9 - CarbonCore/MacTypes.h not found, munch paulson
Re: Updating packages, Aleksey Cheusov
- Re: Updating packages, Matthias Scheler
  - Re: Updating packages, Aleksey Cheusov
- Re: Updating packages, Louis Guillaume
Developing packges with alternates as dependencies?, Gary Thorpe
- Re: Developing packges with alternates as dependencies?, Steven M. Bellovin
  - Re: Developing packges with alternates as dependencies?, Geert Hendrickx
    - Re: Developing packges with alternates as dependencies?, Gary Thorpe
    - Re: Developing packges with alternates as dependencies?, Geert Hendrickx
- Re: Developing packges with alternates as dependencies?, Jeremy C. Reed
  - Re: Developing packges with alternates as dependencies?, Gary Thorpe
    - Re: Developing packges with alternates as dependencies?, Jeremy C. Reed
- Re: Developing packges with alternates as dependencies?, Joerg Sonnenberger
upgrade of misc/less, Aleksey Cheusov
- Re: upgrade of misc/less, Tobias Nygren
  - Re: upgrade of misc/less, Aleksey Cheusov
Documentation quality of pkgsrc, Ulrich Habel
- Re: Documentation quality of pkgsrc, Jeremy C. Reed
  - Re: Documentation quality of pkgsrc, Stefan 'Kaishakunin' Schumacher
- Re: Documentation quality of pkgsrc, Steven M. Bellovin
lang/sun-jdk15, Ernesto Bascon
Bulk packages for Darwin/i386?, Jaromir Dolecek
- Re: Bulk packages for Darwin/i386?, Matthias Scheler
  - Re: Bulk packages for Darwin/i386?, Jaromir Dolecek
    - Re: Bulk packages for Darwin/i386?, Matthias Scheler
    - Re: Bulk packages for Darwin/i386?, Joerg Sonnenberger
mksandbox, Jan Danielsson
- Re: mksandbox, Steven M. Bellovin
  - Re: mksandbox, Jan Danielsson
    - Re: mksandbox, Louis Guillaume
  - Re: mksandbox, Alexander Nasonov
    - Re: mksandbox, Alexander Nasonov
su-install-all fails with dependencies for print/teTeX, Gary Thorpe
- Re: su-install-all fails with dependencies for print/teTeX, OBATA Akio
  - Re: su-install-all fails with dependencies for print/teTeX, Gary Thorpe
games/openttd, Jan Danielsson
- Re: games/openttd, Tobias Nygren
  - Re: games/openttd, Jan Danielsson
    - Re: games/openttd, haad
  - Re: games/openttd, Jan Danielsson
    - Re: games/openttd, Antonio Marques
    - Re: games/openttd, Jan Danielsson
    - Re: games/openttd, Antonio Marques
    - Re: games/openttd, Greg Troxel
qemu build error in sys/lock.h, Oliver Gould
- Re: qemu build error in sys/lock.h, Klaus Heinz
- Re: qemu build error in sys/lock.h, Kouichirou Hiratsuka
  - Re: qemu build error in sys/lock.h, Oliver Gould
Re: CVS commit: pkgsrc/devel/libgphoto2, Bernd Ernesti
- Re: CVS commit: pkgsrc/devel/libgphoto2, Stephen Borrill
xmms-wma from 2007Q1 doesnt build on my NetBSD 4.0, Asmodehn Shade
Build of multimedia/gtranscode fails when creating a package, Jan Danielsson
threading bug in mail-notification?, Greg Troxel
- Re: threading bug in mail-notification?, Greg Troxel
diffs to use boehm-gc with any package (and an example), Blair Sadewitz
Catalyst !, Francisco Valladolid Hdez.
- Re: Catalyst !, OBATA Akio
  - Re: Catalyst !, David Brownlee
    - Re: Catalyst !, Francisco Valladolid Hdez.
    - Re: Catalyst !, OBATA Akio
    - Re: Catalyst !, David Brownlee
    - Re: Catalyst !, Francisco Valladolid Hdez.
    - Re: Catalyst !, David Brownlee
suse100 support for NetBSD/amd64 committed, Juan RP
- Re: suse100 support for NetBSD/amd64 committed, Juan RP
  - Re: suse100 support for NetBSD/amd64 committed, Blair Sadewitz
    - Re: suse100 support for NetBSD/amd64 committed, Juan RP
    - Re: suse100 support for NetBSD/amd64 committed, Blair Sadewitz
    - Re: suse100 support for NetBSD/amd64 committed, Nicolas Joly
    - Re: suse100 support for NetBSD/amd64 committed, Christos Zoulas
- Re: suse100 support for NetBSD/amd64 committed, Loic Hoguin
openoffice2 won't work, david.aubril
- Re: openoffice2 won't work, david.aubril
  - Re: openoffice2 won't work, Kouichirou Hiratsuka
    - Re: openoffice2 won't work, david.aubril
/etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.subr for solaris, Mark Blackman
- Re: /etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.subr for solaris, Aleksey Cheusov
  - Re: /etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.subr for solaris, Mark Blackman
    - Re: /etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.subr for solaris, Jeremy C. Reed
    - Re: /etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.subr for solaris, Mark Blackman
    - Re: /etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.subr for solaris, Joerg Sonnenberger
opera won't start up, Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: opera won't start up, Juan RP
- Re: opera won't start up, Chavdar Ivanov
- Re: opera won't start up, Brian de Alwis
  - Re: opera won't start up, Steven M. Bellovin
    - Re: opera won't start up, Brian de Alwis
    - Re: opera won't start up, Steven M. Bellovin
Re: The pkgsrc 2007Q1 Release, Manuel Bouyer
[ANNOUNCEMENT] The pkgsrc-2007Q1 Branch, Alistair Crooks
Package binaries for NetBSD/macppc 3.1_STABLE / pkgsrc-2007Q1, Havard Eidnes
postgresql82-tsearch2 - tsearch2.so versus libtsearch2.so, the carlos
misc GNOME nits, Blair Sadewitz
jabberd 1.4.2 fails on netbsd-4, Greg Troxel
- Re: jabberd 1.4.2 fails on netbsd-4, David Brownlee
Patch for lang/chicken to bring it up to latest release, Alaric Snell-Pym
- Re: Patch for lang/chicken to bring it up to latest release, Geert Hendrickx
- Re: Patch for lang/chicken to bring it up to latest release, OBATA Akio
- Re: Patch for lang/chicken to bring it up to latest release, Alaric Snell-Pym
  - Re: Patch for lang/chicken to bring it up to latest release, Geert Hendrickx
  - Re: Patch for lang/chicken to bring it up to latest release, Gergo Szakal
Solaris 9 sparc - pkgsrc-2007Q1 binaries available, Ulrich Habel
net/mDNSResponder suggestion, Daniel Eggert
- Re: net/mDNSResponder suggestion, Matthias Scheler
misc/openoffice2 on amd64, Mihai Chelaru
gnome versus dbus?, walt
- Re: gnome versus dbus?, Greg Troxel
- Re: gnome versus dbus?, Matthias Drochner
  - Re: gnome versus dbus?, Greg Troxel
    - Re: gnome versus dbus?, Joerg Sonnenberger
    - Re: gnome versus dbus?, Greg Troxel
    - Re: gnome versus dbus?, Joerg Sonnenberger
print/xfce4-print on Linux 2.6.20.1, Ondřej Tůma
net/samba on Linux 2.6.20.1, Ondřej Tůma
multimedia/xine-lib on Linux 2.6.20.1, Ondřej Tůma
freeciv-server: lacking MAINTAINER, needs MAKE_JOBS_SAFE=NO, Martin S. Weber
- Re: freeciv-server: lacking MAINTAINER, needs MAKE_JOBS_SAFE=NO, Martin S. Weber
  - Re: freeciv-server: lacking MAINTAINER, needs MAKE_JOBS_SAFE=NO, Lubomir Sedlacik
    - Re: freeciv-server: lacking MAINTAINER, needs MAKE_JOBS_SAFE=NO, Martin S. Weber
- Re: freeciv-server: lacking MAINTAINER, needs MAKE_JOBS_SAFE=NO, Greg Troxel
Build problems on Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 x86_64, Christoph Leuzinger
- Re: Build problems on Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 x86_64, Christoph Leuzinger
- Re: Build problems on Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 x86_64, Klaus Heinz
debootstrap in pkgsrc, Asmodehn Shade
- Re: debootstrap in pkgsrc, Klaus Heinz
Re: extra information in pkgsrc, Matthias Scheler
- Re: extra information in pkgsrc, Roland Illig
  - Re: extra information in pkgsrc, david l goodrich
pkgtools/pkg_chk (1.83), pkgsrc-XXXXQY switches, "Failed: " wrong, Martin S. Weber
- Re: pkgtools/pkg_chk (1.83), pkgsrc-XXXXQY switches, "Failed: " wrong, Bernd Ernesti
  - Re: pkgtools/pkg_chk (1.83), pkgsrc-XXXXQY switches, "Failed: " wrong, Martin S. Weber
    - Re: pkgtools/pkg_chk (1.83), pkgsrc-XXXXQY switches, "Failed: " wrong, David Brownlee
Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Loic Hoguin
- Re: Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Juan RP
- Re: Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Juan RP
  - Re: Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Loic Hoguin
    - Re: Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Juan RP
    - Re: Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Juan RP
    - Re: Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Loic Hoguin
    - Re: Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Juan RP
    - Re: Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Nicolas Joly
    - Re: Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Juan RP
    - Re: Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Nicolas Joly
- Re: Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Mihai Chelaru
  - Re: Opera 9.2, emul/linux32 and amd64 (was: Can't run opera on amd64), Loic Hoguin
testing spamassassin 3.2.0rc2, Klaus Heinz
- Re: testing spamassassin 3.2.0rc2, Chavdar Ivanov
- testing spamassassin 3.2.0rc3, Klaus Heinz
2007Q1 devel/subversion-base: Unsupported relocation, David Young
x11/kdebase3 on Linux, Ondřej Tůma
AMD64, Linux, aRts and pkgsrc, Ernesto Bascon
- Re: AMD64, Linux, aRts and pkgsrc, Blair Sadewitz
  - Re: AMD64, Linux, aRts and pkgsrc, Ernesto Bascon
- Re: AMD64, Linux, aRts and pkgsrc, Tobias Nygren
  - Re: AMD64, Linux, aRts and pkgsrc, Ernesto Bascon
misc/openoffice2 on NetBSD sparc64, Raymond Meyer
- Re: misc/openoffice2 on NetBSD sparc64, Kouichirou Hiratsuka
  - Re: misc/openoffice2 on NetBSD sparc64, Raymond Meyer
  - Re: misc/openoffice2 on NetBSD sparc64, Raymond Meyer
  - Re: misc/openoffice2 on NetBSD sparc64, Raymond Meyer
    - Re: misc/openoffice2 on NetBSD sparc64, Kouichirou Hiratsuka
    - Re: misc/openoffice2 on NetBSD sparc64, Raymond Meyer
  - Re: misc/openoffice2 on NetBSD sparc64, Raymond Meyer
    - Re: misc/openoffice2 on NetBSD sparc64, Raymond Meyer
    - Re: misc/openoffice2 on NetBSD sparc64, Kouichirou Hiratsuka
    - Re: misc/openoffice2 on NetBSD sparc64, Raymond Meyer
Help needed with Xfce plugins, Martti Kuparinen
- Re: Help needed with Xfce plugins, Kouichirou Hiratsuka
  - Re: Help needed with Xfce plugins, Martti Kuparinen
    - Re: Help needed with Xfce plugins, Kouichirou Hiratsuka
print/html2ps/patches & sha1(1) errors, Oliver Gould
- Re: print/html2ps/patches & sha1(1) errors, Joerg Sonnenberger
  - Re: print/html2ps/patches & sha1(1) errors, Oliver Gould
net/openslp, Ondřej Tůma
modular Xorg and pthreads, Blair Sadewitz
- Re: modular Xorg and pthreads, Joerg Sonnenberger
  - Re: modular Xorg and pthreads, Blair Sadewitz
    - Re: modular Xorg and pthreads, Joerg Sonnenberger
    - Re: modular Xorg and pthreads, Blair Sadewitz
    - Re: modular Xorg and pthreads, Blair Sadewitz
Xfce 4.4.1 is now in pkgsrc, Martti Kuparinen
- Re: Xfce 4.4.1 is now in pkgsrc, walt
Problems building gettext on Darwin (Mac OS X/Intel), Konrad Neuwirth
- Re: Problems building gettext on Darwin (Mac OS X/Intel), Joerg Sonnenberger
Switching to modular X11, Matthias Scheler
- Re: Switching to modular X11, David Brownlee
  - Re: Switching to modular X11, Matthias Scheler
    - Re: Switching to modular X11, David Brownlee
    - Re: Switching to modular X11, Blair Sadewitz
- Re: Switching to modular X11, Pierrick Brossin
One core dump while building openoffice2, Bernd Ernesti
- Re: One core dump while building openoffice2, Kouichirou Hiratsuka
want ms-ttf package on FTP, Jeremy C. Reed
- Re: want ms-ttf package on FTP, Joerg Sonnenberger
- Re: want ms-ttf package on FTP, Greg Troxel
  - Re: want ms-ttf package on FTP, Matthias Scheler
    - Re: want ms-ttf package on FTP, Jeremy C. Reed
wyrd port, John
- Re: wyrd port, Gergo Szakal
graphics/openexr, Ondřej Tůma
- Re: graphics/openexr, Joerg Sonnenberger
iconv / LDFLAGS question (opensolaris), Mark Mayo
- Re: iconv / LDFLAGS question (opensolaris), Klaus Heinz
- Re: iconv / LDFLAGS question (opensolaris), Joerg Sonnenberger
Problem with deleting firefox while nspluginwrapper is installed, Bernd Ernesti
- Re: Problem with deleting firefox while nspluginwrapper is installed, David Brownlee
pkgsrc and local source code, no distfiles, Nik Clayton
- Re: pkgsrc and local source code, no distfiles, Joerg Sonnenberger
- Re: pkgsrc and local source code, no distfiles, Greg Troxel
Re: sysutils/xosview build failure (was: CVS commit: src/sys), Bernd Ernesti
- Re: sysutils/xosview build failure (was: CVS commit: src/sys), Chavdar Ivanov
  - Re: sysutils/xosview build failure (was: CVS commit: src/sys), Bernd Ernesti
gettext-tools in pkg_comp, César Catrián Carreño
- libiconv (was: Re: gettext-tools in pkg_comp), César Catrián Carreño
freeciv sound problems and crash, Asmodehn Shade
problems installing scsl-jre15, Alasdair Reed
- Re: problems installing scsl-jre15, David Brownlee
  - Re: {pkgsrc-users} Re: problems installing scsl-jre15, Brian de Alwis
pkgsrcCon 2007 - Registration, last reminder!, Lubomir Sedlacik
Re: NetBSD Export Control List Clarification, Greg Troxel
- NetBSD Export Control List Clarification, Siju George
  - Re: NetBSD Export Control List Clarification, Greg Troxel
  - Re: NetBSD Export Control List Clarification, Matthias Scheler
    - Re: NetBSD Export Control List Clarification, Siju George
- NetBSD Export Control List Clarification, Siju George
xmlrpc-c on NetBSD : build error, Asmodehn Shade
- Re: xmlrpc-c on NetBSD : build error, Chavdar Ivanov
- Re: xmlrpc-c on NetBSD : build error, OBATA Akio
  - Re: xmlrpc-c on NetBSD : build error, Alexandre Vincent
Solaris and AMD64 support, Ernesto Bascon
- Re: Solaris and AMD64 support, Tobias Nygren
- Re: Solaris and AMD64 support, Joerg Sonnenberger
- Re: Solaris and AMD64 support, Gilles Dauphin
- Re: Solaris and AMD64 support, Gilles Dauphin
  - Re: Solaris and AMD64 support, Ernesto Bascon
    - Re: Solaris and AMD64 support, Chavdar Ivanov
- Re: Solaris and AMD64 support, Gilles Dauphin
- Re: Solaris and AMD64 support, Gilles Dauphin
Interix HEADS UP: maintainence help needed, Todd Vierling
New maintainer needed: mail/sendmail[812], Todd Vierling
Re: wxGTK & Unicode, Joerg Sonnenberger
misc/openoffice2 on Solaris, Raymond Meyer
- Re: misc/openoffice2 on Solaris, Kouichirou Hiratsuka
[patch] devel/kdevelop-base DragonFly support, Rumko
- Re: [patch] devel/kdevelop-base DragonFly support, Joerg Sonnenberger
/usr/pkgsrc/sysutils/libgtop2, pierrick
- Re: /usr/pkgsrc/sysutils/libgtop2, Blair Sadewitz
  - Re: /usr/pkgsrc/sysutils/libgtop2, Blair Sadewitz
- Re: /usr/pkgsrc/sysutils/libgtop2, pierrick
lang/sun-jre15 won't install, Ja'far Railton
- Re: lang/sun-jre15 won't install, Matthias Scheler
  - Re: lang/sun-jre15 won't install, Ja'far Railton
    - Re: lang/sun-jre15 won't install, Chavdar Ivanov
    - Re: lang/sun-jre15 won't install, Ja'far Railton
Re: NetBSD 3.1 - kdegraphics3 problem, Tobias Nygren
- Re: NetBSD 3.1 - kdegraphics3 problem, Greg Evans
  - Re: NetBSD 3.1 - kdegraphics3 problem, Jeremy C. Reed
    - Re: NetBSD 3.1 - kdegraphics3 problem, Greg Evans
    - Re: NetBSD 3.1 - kdegraphics3 problem, Jeremy C. Reed
    - Re: NetBSD 3.1 - kdegraphics3 problem, Jeremy C. Reed
problem with gettext-tools in autoconf-link-lib/configure, Blair Sadewitz
- Re: problem with gettext-tools in autoconf-link-lib/configure, Joerg Sonnenberger
  - Re: problem with gettext-tools in autoconf-link-lib/configure, Blair Sadewitz
    - Re: problem with gettext-tools in autoconf-link-lib/configure, Joerg Sonnenberger
short_open_tag in php.ini, Gergo Szakal
- Re: short_open_tag in php.ini, Wouter Schoot
- Re: short_open_tag in php.ini, Jeremy C. Reed
  - Re: short_open_tag in php.ini, Gergo Szakal
    - Re: short_open_tag in php.ini, Jeremy C. Reed
- Re: short_open_tag in php.ini, Joerg Sonnenberger
Cairo 1.4.2nb1 breaks on Linux, Ole Andre Rodlie
- Cairo 1.4.2nb1 breaks on Linux, Ole Andre Rodlie
  - Re: Cairo 1.4.2nb1 breaks on Linux, Ondřej Tůma
echoping: New upstream release (but not obvious to package), Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: echoping: New upstream release (but not obvious to package), Steven M. Bellovin
  - Re: echoping: New upstream release (but not obvious to package), Stephane Bortzmeyer
    - Re: echoping: New upstream release (but not obvious to package), Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: echoping: New upstream release (but not obvious to package), Adrian Portelli
  - Re: echoping: New upstream release (but not obvious to package), Stephane Bortzmeyer
    - Re: echoping: New upstream release (but not obvious to package), Adrian Portelli
- Fw: echoping: New upstream release (but not obvious to package), James K. Lowden
  - Re: Fw: echoping: New upstream release (but not obvious to package), James K. Lowden
Re: How can I install applications which have conflicts in dependences?, Bernd Ernesti
Apps that use Cairo at 8 bit depth don't work, Andy Ruhl
Re: "black text" fix, Blair Sadewitz
- Re: "black text" fix, Joerg Sonnenberger
Re: openoffice2 help files?, Paul Ripke
[patch] DragonFly support in kdebase3 updated, Rumko
- Re: [patch] DragonFly support in kdebase3 updated, Rumko
Re: HEADS UP: package removal suggestions, Thomas Klausner
[qemu] No NIC from NetBSD-daily's boot.iso, Joel CARNAT
kipi-plugins compile problems, Bernd Ernesti
- Re: kipi-plugins compile problems, Thomas Klausner
- Re: kipi-plugins compile problems, Matthias Drochner
  - Re: kipi-plugins compile problems, Bernd Ernesti
Re: Problem with CUPS, Rumko
- Re: Problem with CUPS, Steven M. Bellovin
  - Re: Problem with CUPS, Rumko
  - Re: Problem with CUPS, César Catrián Carreño
    - Re: Problem with CUPS, Steven M. Bellovin
    - Re: Problem with CUPS, Lubomir Sedlacik
- Re: Problem with CUPS, César Catrián Carreño
  - Re: Problem with CUPS, Mark Davies
    - Re: Problem with CUPS, Greg Troxel
    - Re: Problem with CUPS, Greg Troxel
    - Re: Problem with CUPS, César Catrián Carreño
    - Re: Problem with CUPS, Greg Troxel
    - Re: Problem with CUPS, Jukka Salmi
    - Re: Problem with CUPS, Mark Davies
    - Re: Problem with CUPS, Jukka Salmi
Re: Conflicts when building two packages at the same time, Roland Illig
Re: "package" target, Dave B.
problems with kde, xorg, and (perhaps) 4.0beta2, Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: problems with kde, xorg, and (perhaps) 4.0beta2, Steven M. Bellovin
  - Re: problems with kde, xorg, and (perhaps) 4.0beta2, Blair Sadewitz
    - Re: problems with kde, xorg, and (perhaps) 4.0beta2, Steven M. Bellovin
    - Re: problems with kde, xorg, and (perhaps) 4.0beta2, David Brownlee
    - Re: problems with kde, xorg, and (perhaps) 4.0beta2, Mark Davies
    - Re: problems with kde, xorg, and (perhaps) 4.0beta2, Steven M. Bellovin
    - Re: problems with kde, xorg, and (perhaps) 4.0beta2, Blair Sadewitz