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Subject: Re: Business cards



Christopher Mahan a écrit:
--- notafish <notafishz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

OK, sorry for digging out old conversations, I've been dead for the
past 5 days, and just resurrected for a few hours. So here goes.


This said, I stand up to my opinion that mentions of stewards

or

arbitrators of the english AC has basically nothing to do here.

These

positions do not exist in the real world. They mean nothing to

those

outside wikipedia. They are unrelated to the Foundation itself.

And

they are only part of the status existing on the projects.

Well, there are apparently plans to form Arbitration Committees

on other

language versions of Wikipedia, so it's not en:-centric (or not

intended to

be). Thus Arbitrator status, and certainly, of course, Stewards,

are

Wikimedia-project-wide, and the people who will receive these

cards will

understand that they confer extra 'status' of some kind, as you

say. Neither

job are particularly easy to do, and a small amount of thanks

like this is

perhaps not a bad thing.

Having a card, imho, has nothing to do with getting any thanks for
a
job well done within wikipedia or any other project, but more about
having (or not having) a right to speak about certain matters with
a
more or less official position. Arbitrators, Stewards are all, as
Anthere pointed out, positions within the projects, but not
positions
that mean that you have a right to talk about the Moogle Deal of
the
Fahoo proposition or a right to sell Wikipedia and all other
projects
to the next Moohoo buyer who comes along. Of course, I am going a
bit
far, here, but this is what a "card" could entitle to do.

So no, they should not be given out as thanks, but as an exact
description of who does what in the Wikimedia Foundation and
projects,
and who can say "we" when talking about the Foundation, or
Wikimedia
Deutschland, or Wikimedia France. People in general, journalists in
particular, are very wary of who their source is, but will be
fooled
by a little square of paper. A "business card" gives a credibility
that some of us certainly do not have, and some of us certainly do
not
deserve. So let us be careful when handing out those "cards".


Samples of titles:

Wikipedia Administrator
Wikimedia Software Developer
Wikimedia Senior Systems Engineer
Contributing Editor
Arbitration Committee Panelist 2005
WikiNews Freelance Photographer
and so on.

I see nothing in there that says they can speak 'for' the foundation.
There should be a link to Wikimedia Foundation's formal contacts on
each card, like this: www.wikimedia.com/press and an explanation on
that page of what cards there are, who has them, and so on. This will
allow the press people to understand who the cardbearer is and what
they do.

you forgot mediators.

But I think that for press curiosity, it would be interesting to have a couple of very short pages to define this.

Ant


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