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On 5/19/05, plug_0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <plug_0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm installing Linux above the standard cylinder
> limit and I don't want it to be obvious that it is
> available on the machine I'm setting up for security
> reasons. So far I've tried creating a Windows 98
> system disk cd with loadlin off another cd and a 98
> system disk as the data sources, only the files on
> the floppy burned to the cd. Groan. I'd rather use
> freedos if I had it.
>
> The kernel and initrd image that Fedora core 3
> installed will not fit on a floppy with loadlin
> and the 98 system files.

Have you tried building a boot (rescue) floppy from a
FC3 system?

....
> XP box? The easiest I can think of is FIPSing
> the windows partition and changing the part that
> Windows is on to NTFS so that the dos boot that
> loadlin requires will not grant access to the
> Windows part of the drive. I wish there was a
> way to trick XP into thinking that the rest of
> the hard drive doesn't exist. I'm halfway
> worried that NTFS will self destruct with an
> advanced partitioning scheme.
XP and NTFS won't self-destruct with this type of
configuration. I once had 4 different OSes loaded
on to the same hard drive for development at the
time the Linux version was the only one that I had
to play with to get it to work when booting.

>
> The Linux system is going to host a backup of the
> Windows XP Home system, if tar is a functional way
> to back that system up. I used dd to get the XP
> bootblock off the disk. I'm admittedly concerned
> if tar doesn't put XP's files back in exactly the
> same spots on the hard disk that a restoration
> will fail. I'm thinking image file, though I
> admittedly wonder how large it will have to be.
> Is there a way to use dd to get an absolute copy
> of the fat partition to restore it from later?
> What do I set the block size and the count to?
> The Windows swap file and probably the system
> restore points as well will need to be copied
> to the exact same locations they were at when
> they were backed up if I'm not mistaken or
> Windows XP might self destruct when I try to
> restore it.

The best tool that I have found for imaging,
backups, NTFS partition resizing and moving from
one disk to another is BootItNG. I had one machine
that nothing we tried worked, it would either die while
trying to image the drive or the imaged drive would
not boot. BootItNG worked the first time. Haven't looked
around since.


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Re: Looking for a keylogger infection...

On 5/17/05, plug_0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <plug_0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: ... > Is there a program I should burn to a cd and install to my > friend's computer that will find any keylogger that might > be there? Does anyone know a specific file name to search > for or something that will be in the registry that will > indicate a keylogger is installed? I would first start with a good virus scanner with up to date defs like clamwin. Then scan the system with three different ad-ware/spyware scanner programs. my recommends Microsoft antispyware, spysweeper and TDS-3. The problem with all of this is that there could still be custom spam bots and keyloggers that are under the radar of the people that write all of these programs. Best and safest. Get the data off the box. wipe the disk re-install and then behind a good firewall (or have Linux download and burn a CD) download all the XP patches. Microsoft's site is the first and only site you hit until everything is patched. Did you heard the news report about attaching a fresh XP install with all the security patches and then let some teenagers serf the web for an hour. Results: over 300 identified pieces of ad-ware/spyware on the machine. So much for all the security.

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Trying to create bootable cd...

I'm installing Linux above the standard cylinder limit and I don't want it to be obvious that it is available on the machine I'm setting up for security reasons. So far I've tried creating a Windows 98 system disk cd with loadlin off another cd and a 98 system disk as the data sources, only the files on the floppy burned to the cd. Groan. I'd rather use freedos if I had it. The kernel and initrd image that Fedora core 3 installed will not fit on a floppy with loadlin and the 98 system files. In the interest of using a free version of dos and being able to upgrade the XP installation to NTFS possibly, anyone know an easy way around this? I want to burn a bootable cd that is at least a 2.88 meg image. I could go the xosl route, but I don't want to. XOSL, at least the versions I've used, don't understand NTFS. I want my friend to be able to boot linux without completely exposing her XP system. Has anyone installed xosl on a Windows XP box? The easiest I can think of is FIPSing the windows partition and changing the part that Windows is on to NTFS so that the dos boot that loadlin requires will not grant access to the Windows part of the drive. I wish there was a way to trick XP into thinking that the rest of the hard drive doesn't exist. I'm halfway worried that NTFS will self destruct with an advanced partitioning scheme. The Linux system is going to host a backup of the Windows XP Home system, if tar is a functional way to back that system up. I used dd to get the XP bootblock off the disk. I'm admittedly concerned if tar doesn't put XP's files back in exactly the same spots on the hard disk that a restoration will fail. I'm thinking image file, though I admittedly wonder how large it will have to be. Is there a way to use dd to get an absolute copy of the fat partition to restore it from later? What do I set the block size and the count to? The Windows swap file and probably the system restore points as well will need to be copied to the exact same locations they were at when they were backed up if I'm not mistaken or Windows XP might self destruct when I try to restore it. Should I turn system restore points off in XP before I back it up? Michael C. Robinson ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/

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XP installation self destruct has me wary...

Microsoft complained when I tried to activate it that it had been activated before. I replaced the hard drive thinking I can't remove a keylogger from it. When I copied a linux kernel onto one of XP's FAT partitions from Linux, that somehow wrecked the XP system. The start bar self destructed entirely. I've been able to run explorer from task manager, so I'm not buying the idea that explorer.exe got corrupted. Is it possible that Microsoft is so paranoid that it's booby trapping XP home now? Does Microsoft record a hardware fingerprint when you install Windows XP the first time so that it will self destruct if you try to install it on different hardware? I installed on the same box, but I changed the hard disk. Is there any way to trick Windows XP into thinking it has been activated? My only thought is that DEP protection had something to do with it. Maybe a combination of disabling Internet Explorer and installing files to a FAT partition from a different OS triggered an auto destruct. Maybe I should create the fat partition after I get Windows XP fully installed. All I can say is that I'm awfully frustrated with the stupid thing. I wish I could talk my friend into 2000, Fedora Core 3, and vmware. 2000 doesn't need to be activated online for one thing. Microsoft should be sued for creating XP. Too bad she can't afford Windows 2000. Michael ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
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