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Re: Update to the FreeBSD mail/spamd filed as ports/105277

On 8 Nov 2006 at 10:10, Yarema wrote: > > > --On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:21 AM -0500 Yarema <yds@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > > > --On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:40 PM +0800 LI Xin > > <delphij@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Yarema wrote: > >>> --On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:19 PM +0800 LI Xin > >>> <delphij@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Yarema wrote: > >>>>> --On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:39 PM +0800 LI Xin > >>>>> <delphij@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Dan Langille wrote: > >>>>>>> On 7 Nov 2006 at 22:47, Yarema wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Inspired by Bob Beck's talk at the NYC BSD Con I implemented > >>>>>>>> spamd and greyscanner on my FreeBSD pf edge servers. What a > >>>>>>>> difference! Catches somewhere around 99% of the spam before > >>>>>>>> it ever reaches the mail server. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Just filed <http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=105277>. > >>>>>>>> Also available as a tarball at > >>>>>>>> <http://yds.CoolRat.org/freebsd/spamd.tbz>. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Let me know what you think. If you like, let the maintainer > >>>>>>>> know <delphij@xxxxxxxxxxx>. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The updated port is what I'm now running in production. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Have you considered upgrading spamd to the latest version > >>>>>>> from OpenBSD? I'd contacted the maintainer about this, and > >>>>>>> have only recently started working with greylisting via pf > >>>>>>> and spamd. Are you interested in updating spamd itself? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yes that would be great. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If nobody step up with the update I would do that myself this > >>>>>> week, but I would be happy to see someone to take this over, > >>>>>> as I no longer use it for my own use... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> > >>>>> I could try updating it since by now I'm pretty familiar with > >>>>> the port. How did you roll the 3.7 tarball? By hand from an > >>>>> OpenBSD release? > >>>> > >>>> First you need an OpenBSD cvs mirrored locally, or use the > >>>> anonymous OpenBSD CVS. I have rolled CVS information into the > >>>> tarball, so this would be done with something like > >>>> "cvs -d /home/openbsd up -rOPENBSD_4_0" > >>>> in each directories. Then, check if there is newly added files > >>>> in OpenBSD distribution, port the patches into the tree, verify > >>>> that everything goes well, remove the .#* files, and finally > >>>> you got a new tarball. > >>>> > >>>> Please note that if you roll a new tarball, I would advise that > >>>> you either include our local patchsets into it, or separate all > >>>> our local patchset out to files/. This will make maintainer's > >>>> life easier. > >>>> > >>>> So I guess it's midnight in NY? It's afternoon here so if you > >>>> are tired, just leave the work to me :-) > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Yeah, it's 1:30am US/Eastern so I'm ready to pass out. If > >>> you do roll another tarball consider including greyscanner > >>> and all that code dealing with fetching it can be eliminated > >>> from the Makefile. > >> > >> Yes. I have prepared a tarball at > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~delphij/misc/spamd.tar.bz2 and you > >> may want to try it out, to see if the upgrade has all features > >> you wanted. I have uploaded the necessary distfile to my home > >> directory but it can take some time to be populated out to > >> mirror sites. > >> > >> I will walk through the open PRs to see if I have missed > >> something. > > > > OK, I did a few test builds. I see that you opted to apply > > the FreeBSD patches directly to the tarball. There's one > > problem I found with that. In spamd-setup.c line 51 > > ${LOCALBASE}, or ${PREFIX} if you will, gets hard coded: > > > ># define PATH_SPAMD_CONF "/usr/local/etc/spamd.conf" > > > > Same thing probably happens with the man pages. Come to > > think of it I think it would be simpler to maintain the > > port with the local FreeBSD patches applied by the port at > > build time like before rather than rolling the tarball with > > the patches already applied. Who knows.. maybe the OpenBSD > > folks will someday package spamd as a tarball themselves. > > It would be good to have those patches still araound in the > > files dir if/when that happens. > > > > Otherwise looks good. Thanks again for looking into this so > > quickly. > > Following up on my own email... Just updated the 4.0 version of > <http://yds.CoolRat.org/freebsd/spamd.tbz> adding files/crontab.in to be > installed as ${EXAMPLESDIR}/crontab. And some minor cosmetic fixes to the > Makefile. So what point are we at? Do we want to ugprade the FreeBSD port or what? Do we have a patch ready to go? Should we start a new PR? -- Dan Langille : Software Developer looking for work my resume: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php PGCon - The PostgreSQL Conference - http://www.pgcon.org/

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Francisco Reyes wrote: > George R. writes: > > >> PS: Max, you could always check the archives .. or were you trying to >> provoke a discussion? >> > > Yeah, just wanted to make sure I still get emails... And that the list is still there.. : ) > He was/is trying to make sure his greylisting was not blocking the list. > _______________________________________________ > % NYC*BUG talk mailing list > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > %Be sure to check out our Jobs and NYCBUG-announce lists > %We meet the first Wednesday of the month >

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OffTopic - NYC Electronics Supply Stores ?

Sorry for the off-topicness, but I know that someone here can make a suggestion: I'm installing a PID on one off my espresso machines this weekend. I need to pick up a decent looking 'project box' and some misc electronic components. Can anyone offer a suggestion as to where I can find that sort of stuff in NYC ? (aside from Radio Shack. i don't like the boxes they stock) Thanks. // Jonathan Vanasco | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | FindMeOn.com - The cure for Multiple Web Personality Disorder | Web Identity Management and 3D Social Networking | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | RoadSound.com - Tools For Bands, Stuff For Fans | Collaborative Online Management And Syndication Tools | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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Re: Update to the FreeBSD mail/spamd filed as ports/105277

On 8 Nov 2006 at 10:10, Yarema wrote: > > > --On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:21 AM -0500 Yarema <yds@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > > > --On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:40 PM +0800 LI Xin > > <delphij@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Yarema wrote: > >>> --On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:19 PM +0800 LI Xin > >>> <delphij@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Yarema wrote: > >>>>> --On Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:39 PM +0800 LI Xin > >>>>> <delphij@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Dan Langille wrote: > >>>>>>> On 7 Nov 2006 at 22:47, Yarema wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Inspired by Bob Beck's talk at the NYC BSD Con I implemented > >>>>>>>> spamd and greyscanner on my FreeBSD pf edge servers. What a > >>>>>>>> difference! Catches somewhere around 99% of the spam before > >>>>>>>> it ever reaches the mail server. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Just filed <http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=105277>. > >>>>>>>> Also available as a tarball at > >>>>>>>> <http://yds.CoolRat.org/freebsd/spamd.tbz>. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Let me know what you think. If you like, let the maintainer > >>>>>>>> know <delphij@xxxxxxxxxxx>. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The updated port is what I'm now running in production. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Have you considered upgrading spamd to the latest version > >>>>>>> from OpenBSD? I'd contacted the maintainer about this, and > >>>>>>> have only recently started working with greylisting via pf > >>>>>>> and spamd. Are you interested in updating spamd itself? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yes that would be great. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If nobody step up with the update I would do that myself this > >>>>>> week, but I would be happy to see someone to take this over, > >>>>>> as I no longer use it for my own use... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> > >>>>> I could try updating it since by now I'm pretty familiar with > >>>>> the port. How did you roll the 3.7 tarball? By hand from an > >>>>> OpenBSD release? > >>>> > >>>> First you need an OpenBSD cvs mirrored locally, or use the > >>>> anonymous OpenBSD CVS. I have rolled CVS information into the > >>>> tarball, so this would be done with something like > >>>> "cvs -d /home/openbsd up -rOPENBSD_4_0" > >>>> in each directories. Then, check if there is newly added files > >>>> in OpenBSD distribution, port the patches into the tree, verify > >>>> that everything goes well, remove the .#* files, and finally > >>>> you got a new tarball. > >>>> > >>>> Please note that if you roll a new tarball, I would advise that > >>>> you either include our local patchsets into it, or separate all > >>>> our local patchset out to files/. This will make maintainer's > >>>> life easier. > >>>> > >>>> So I guess it's midnight in NY? It's afternoon here so if you > >>>> are tired, just leave the work to me :-) > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Yeah, it's 1:30am US/Eastern so I'm ready to pass out. If > >>> you do roll another tarball consider including greyscanner > >>> and all that code dealing with fetching it can be eliminated > >>> from the Makefile. > >> > >> Yes. I have prepared a tarball at > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~delphij/misc/spamd.tar.bz2 and you > >> may want to try it out, to see if the upgrade has all features > >> you wanted. I have uploaded the necessary distfile to my home > >> directory but it can take some time to be populated out to > >> mirror sites. > >> > >> I will walk through the open PRs to see if I have missed > >> something. > > > > OK, I did a few test builds. I see that you opted to apply > > the FreeBSD patches directly to the tarball. There's one > > problem I found with that. In spamd-setup.c line 51 > > ${LOCALBASE}, or ${PREFIX} if you will, gets hard coded: > > > ># define PATH_SPAMD_CONF "/usr/local/etc/spamd.conf" > > > > Same thing probably happens with the man pages. Come to > > think of it I think it would be simpler to maintain the > > port with the local FreeBSD patches applied by the port at > > build time like before rather than rolling the tarball with > > the patches already applied. Who knows.. maybe the OpenBSD > > folks will someday package spamd as a tarball themselves. > > It would be good to have those patches still araound in the > > files dir if/when that happens. > > > > Otherwise looks good. Thanks again for looking into this so > > quickly. > > Following up on my own email... Just updated the 4.0 version of > <http://yds.CoolRat.org/freebsd/spamd.tbz> adding files/crontab.in to be > installed as ${EXAMPLESDIR}/crontab. And some minor cosmetic fixes to the > Makefile. So what point are we at? Do we want to ugprade the FreeBSD port or what? Do we have a patch ready to go? Should we start a new PR? -- Dan Langille : Software Developer looking for work my resume: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php PGCon - The PostgreSQL Conference - http://www.pgcon.org/