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Subject: Re: Bill Gates will meet Angela Merkel - msg#00026
List: org.fsf.europe.discussion
Hi Matthias,
On 10/10/07, Matthias Kirschner <mk-VaTbYqLCNhc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I do not know if FSF is aware of that and if they plan to write a
> letter. FSFE is thinking about if and how to do this.
that was a typo. I meant FSFE.
Cheers,
Torsten
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Ballmer's newest statements re: Red Hat and patents
Do any of you see something new - as in, some action actually
threatened, or signs of a "stepping up" - in Steve Ballmer's most
recent statements?
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2200717/microsoft-sharpens-aims-patent
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071008205138925
To me it seems that by pointing a finger directly a Red Hat the effect
of scaring business away from FOSS becomes more specific - and, in a
way, more pointed that previously. Now it's not so much "there are
some patents but we're not telling which" but rather "there are some
patents and we're not telling which, but people using those products
are going to have to pay up."
But is there any real harm done by it - except for the FUD? Or is the
main harm done by such statements perhaps to Microsoft itself?
best regards,
Carsten
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Re: Ballmer's newest statements re: Red Hat and patents
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 12:50 +0200, Carsten Agger wrote:
> Do any of you see something new - as in, some action actually
> threatened, or signs of a "stepping up" - in Steve Ballmer's most
> recent statements?
>
> http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2200717/microsoft-sharpens-aims-patent
> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071008205138925
>
> To me it seems that by pointing a finger directly a Red Hat the effect
> of scaring business away from FOSS becomes more specific - and, in a
> way, more pointed that previously. Now it's not so much "there are
> some patents but we're not telling which" but rather "there are some
> patents and we're not telling which, but people using those products
> are going to have to pay up."
>
> But is there any real harm done by it - except for the FUD? Or is the
> main harm done by such statements perhaps to Microsoft itself?
Given that Red Hat has a real indemnification program (that covers also
patent claims) it seem pure FUD to me.
Simo.
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Re: Bill Gates will meet Angela Merkel
Hi Torsten,
* Torsten Werner <mail.twerner-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[2007-10-04 13:34:57 +0200]:
> there will be a symposium in the german federal foreign office:
> http://www.vodafone-stiftung.de/bin/php/frontend/index.php3?ACTION=SHOWCONTENT&menuepunkt=2
> (text is in german). Both Mr. Gates and Mrs. Merkel will take part and
> have a discussion. Does the FSF have any plans to write an official
> letter to Mrs. Merkel? Open document formats could be a good topic.
I do not know if FSF is aware of that and if they plan to write a
letter. FSFE is thinking about if and how to do this.
With best wishes,
Matze
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Re: Die Peer-Ökonomie
On 10/5/07, Christian Siefkes
<christian-0a8dUXqrJ1fR7s880joybQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ist ja auch keine Dokumentation! RMS erlaubt bei seinen Essays nur die
> unveränderte Weitergabe, verstößt er damit auch gegen den Geist der Freien
> Software?
Ja, dass tut er meiner Meinung nach, weil eine Wiederverwendung von
Teilen des Textes in modifizierter Form nicht möglich ist. Bei freier
Software ist eine solche Beschränkung völlig unakzeptabel.
Viele Grüße,
Torsten
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