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Subject: Re: [CUWiN] end-user mesh - msg#00020List: network.wireless.cu-wireless> I think its a mistake to require people to load new software on their > laptops, even if it improves the situation. > Folks won't do it. You could be right. On the other hand, according to www.skype.com, their free Internet telephony software has been downloaded more than 101 million times. Sometimes folks will install new software, if it delivers real benefits. Some people might not want to run the cuwin software on their laptop, but other people might to receive the mutual benefits of a network with expanded coverage. The possibility of end users running the cuwin software on their laptops raises another question. With a greatly increased number of nodes, would cuwin be able to determine the shortest path through the network? If there are too many hops, the latency in transmission might cripple realtime applications such as VOIP. John Kintree _______________________________________________ CU-Wireless mailing list CU-Wireless@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/cu-wireless Project Page: http://cuwireless.ucimc.org Thread at a glance:
Previous Message by Date: click to view message previewRe: [CUWiN] Loading CUWin Image to Soekris 4526 SMBOn Mon, 18 Apr 2005, jbrink@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Hello, I'm sure that this has been asked before, but is there a detailed "How To" document to transfer the cuwin image to a Soekris 4526 board with 64 MB Ram and 64 MB of CF. I've got the board to boot via PXEboot using a kernel i found via google, but can't seem to transfer the image to CF. Including trying to mount nfs shares. Does anyone have a compiled image that will get me started ? There's a number of ways to do it. I've been using the recipe found here: http://metrix.net/support/pxeboot/ You have to have to set up your IP address, DHCP, and TFTP as shown. Then you run an http server (I use thttp) to serve the raw image. The 4526 will PXE boot then wget the raw image from the webserver and reboot without intervention, other than <Ctrl>-P and 'boot f0' from the system BIOS to PXE boot. The 0.5.5 image here should work (need to gunzip first for the process above): http://www.cuwireless.net/downloads/release-0.5.5.html#bin-net4526 Aside: Are there enough potential testers to justify a "nightly" binary release of the trunk? bill -- Bill Comisky bcomisky@xxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ CU-Wireless mailing list CU-Wireless@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/cu-wireless Project Page: http://cuwireless.ucimc.org Next Message by Date: click to view message previewRe: [CUWiN] end-user meshOn Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 12:39:40AM -1000, Jim Thompson wrote: > Sascha Meinrath wrote: > > >Hi John, > > > >On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, John Kintree wrote: > > > >>One requirement I did not see in the RFP for Wireless Philadelphia > >>(http://www.phila.gov/wireless/) is for end-user devices, such as laptop > >>computers and PDAs, to run the mesh networking software. It seems > >>like doing > >>so would practically eliminate dead-spots in the network. Is porting > >>the > >>cuwin mesh software to client platforms (Linux, Mac, Windows, ...) > >>part of > >>the plan? > > > > > >The CUWiN software is small enough that it could be ported to a > >variety of end-user devices. We're currently working to crossbuild on > >Linux. We'd love to port to various platforms and devices -- just > >need to find either the funding to hire folks or the volunteers who'd > >like to work on adding this functionality. > > I've volunteered for LX50 / RTL8181 and Intel Xscale (ixp42x) once Mr. > Young gets the netbsd part of the tree > up to snuff WRT FreeBSD. Jim, You can be sure that net80211 will be updated. I have spent many hours on it already. I got it to the point where it would compile before I put it aside a few weeks ago. Testing will be a treat, I'm sure.... CUWiN is swamped with work for our deliverables; it will not be until mid-May that I can revisit net80211. > I think its a mistake to require people to load new software on their > laptops, even if it improves the situation. > Folks won't do it. I agree. > The RFP requires 802.11 STA access, btw. (Including 802.1x/WPA/WPA2). Even this is a very tall order! If they achieve 95% coverage in Philly, then all the 802.11 STAs with braindead roaming implementations may get Seriously Confused. Dave -- David Young OJC Technologies dyoung@xxxxxxxxxxx Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933 _______________________________________________ CU-Wireless mailing list CU-Wireless@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/cu-wireless Project Page: http://cuwireless.ucimc.org Previous Message by Thread: click to view message previewRe: [CUWiN] end-user meshSascha Meinrath wrote: Hi John, On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, John Kintree wrote: One requirement I did not see in the RFP for Wireless Philadelphia (http://www.phila.gov/wireless/) is for end-user devices, such as laptop computers and PDAs, to run the mesh networking software. It seems like doing so would practically eliminate dead-spots in the network. Is porting the cuwin mesh software to client platforms (Linux, Mac, Windows, ...) part of the plan? The CUWiN software is small enough that it could be ported to a variety of end-user devices. We're currently working to crossbuild on Linux. We'd love to port to various platforms and devices -- just need to find either the funding to hire folks or the volunteers who'd like to work on adding this functionality. I've volunteered for LX50 / RTL8181 and Intel Xscale (ixp42x) once Mr. Young gets the netbsd part of the tree up to snuff WRT FreeBSD. I think its a mistake to require people to load new software on their laptops, even if it improves the situation. Folks won't do it. The RFP requires 802.11 STA access, btw. (Including 802.1x/WPA/WPA2). jim _______________________________________________ CU-Wireless mailing list CU-Wireless@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/cu-wireless Project Page: http://cuwireless.ucimc.org Next Message by Thread: click to view message previewRe: [CUWiN] end-user meshOn Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 12:39:40AM -1000, Jim Thompson wrote: > Sascha Meinrath wrote: > > >Hi John, > > > >On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, John Kintree wrote: > > > >>One requirement I did not see in the RFP for Wireless Philadelphia > >>(http://www.phila.gov/wireless/) is for end-user devices, such as laptop > >>computers and PDAs, to run the mesh networking software. It seems > >>like doing > >>so would practically eliminate dead-spots in the network. Is porting > >>the > >>cuwin mesh software to client platforms (Linux, Mac, Windows, ...) > >>part of > >>the plan? > > > > > >The CUWiN software is small enough that it could be ported to a > >variety of end-user devices. We're currently working to crossbuild on > >Linux. We'd love to port to various platforms and devices -- just > >need to find either the funding to hire folks or the volunteers who'd > >like to work on adding this functionality. > > I've volunteered for LX50 / RTL8181 and Intel Xscale (ixp42x) once Mr. > Young gets the netbsd part of the tree > up to snuff WRT FreeBSD. Jim, You can be sure that net80211 will be updated. I have spent many hours on it already. I got it to the point where it would compile before I put it aside a few weeks ago. Testing will be a treat, I'm sure.... CUWiN is swamped with work for our deliverables; it will not be until mid-May that I can revisit net80211. > I think its a mistake to require people to load new software on their > laptops, even if it improves the situation. > Folks won't do it. I agree. > The RFP requires 802.11 STA access, btw. (Including 802.1x/WPA/WPA2). Even this is a very tall order! If they achieve 95% coverage in Philly, then all the 802.11 STAs with braindead roaming implementations may get Seriously Confused. Dave -- David Young OJC Technologies dyoung@xxxxxxxxxxx Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933 _______________________________________________ CU-Wireless mailing list CU-Wireless@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/cu-wireless Project Page: http://cuwireless.ucimc.org Loading Comments...
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