Re: SUN JRE (Java) as package for TS2

Hej Lars

Well, basically I agree that java/jre is a sexy idea. I was wildly excited 
when java was introduced some years ago - "this is going to be the 
future".

The fact is that today java has very little influence. It is oversized and 
underperforming. And it isn't open source. TS can live with external 
packages as ICA and Flash being closed source, but having a "java-TS" with 
the core component not being open source is unacceptable. I'm aware that 
SUN is thinking about opening java, but SUN thinks a lot and does little.

Concerning hardware: Yes, if you go out to buy new TS hardware, java will 
run without problems (I just has a real hard time to get 128 MB DDR 
sticks for new TS clients (Epia M-6000). 256 was the normal minimum!). 
However, last time I suggested a 400 MHz P-II as design target for TS-3.0
(due in a year or so) I was almost expelled from the project by the 
users :-)

TS needs to be able to run on very modest hardware. And having to rely on 
java for it's core system simply doesn't add up, IMHO.

Mike

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, Lars Karlslund wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 01:31, Mike Eriksen wrote:
> 
> > > Have an idia to made ThinStation as Web-oriented workstation with Java VM
> > > support (some ERP require it). What do you think about it? Will Java work
> > > as package for TS2 like Firefox?
> > It probably could work, but... Did you check the size of jre? It is around 
> > 500% bigger by itself than a typical TS image, it requires very powerful 
> > cpus and plenty of RAM. It isn't really useful for a thin client, IMHO.
> 
> Remember to keep an open mind about ThinStation usage. The cool thing is
> that its made up of packages, and that both hardware and needs vary
> between users.
> 
> Java is universal - the following clients *could* be run as Java
> clients, if we wanted: Citrix, Tarantella, SSH, Rdesktop, VNC - well the
> list goes on.
> 
> I can't see anyone doing just that, but getting native Java apps on
> ThinStation doesn't look as that bad an idea to me.
> 
> 
> 

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