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This is exactly why we need two names that can be on independent timelines
that do not beget simple comparision between version numbers to determine
goodness!

Jeff;

-----Original Message-----
From: Morbus Iff [mailto:morbus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:21 AM
To: rss-dev-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [RSS-DEV] Ann: RSS 2.0 ;->


>OK, if that's the way it works, I assume it's OK with you if someone else
>comes up with "RSS 2.0" that:

No, that won't work. We've got to pull a Netscape. Name it 3.0, than we can
all derisively scorn at the people still using *yawn* 1.0. And applaud the
people still using the "looks like a beta increment" .9x for their
elite/geek/oldskool mentality.

:)


Morbus Iff
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RE: Ann: RSS 2.0 ;->

On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Rael Dornfest wrote: > Howdy, > > Please let's not start this silliness; it's really not as simple as that as > everyone more than knows by now. > Too late! ;-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rss3 [[ RSS 3.0 is a Web content syndication format. RSS 3.0 stands for Really Sophisticated Syndication, and is compatible with RSS 4.0, RSS 5.0, CDF2++, MCF-5.0alpha (gold pro), XHTML (Adult), RSS 1.0 and MP3. Through the use of an advanced Reality Distortion Field RSS 3.0 maintains the illusion of simplicity and decentralised control whilst in fact being steered by a sinister consortium of machievelian publishers and metadata geeks. Coming soon, RSS 3.1415927 with HTTP 3.0(Pro) as a free download if you recommend it to a friend. ]]

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RE: IMPORTANT: RSS by any other name...

Dave Winer wrote: > > My company happens to be one of the companies that put "fairly big money" > into RSS. Granted. Userland worked with RSS 0.9 when no-one else (and certainly not Netscape) was interested in it. Credit where it's due. > Now you're beginning to understand what the issue is and why the > style of competition exemplified by "RSS 1.0" is so totally unacceptable. _What_ competition ? RSS 1.0 does its own thing, and has never tried to mandate anything concerned with anything not calling itself "RSS 1.0". RSS 0.9x exists, and (speaking as a day-to-day RDF developer) it's a good thing too - an RDF based _anything_ hasn't been ready to fly until very recently, whereas useful XML apps. could be rolled out a few years ago. There are just two issues I object to: Any attempt to mandate "an RSS *.* group MUST / MUST NOT use RDF" (either choice, by any group) "RSS !=n" must stop calling itself RSS, because "RSS n" 'owns' the name. If RSS 0.9x wants to continue pushing the (XML / no RDF) route, then I certainly don't have a problem with that. Translation is easy enough, after all.

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Re: Ann: RSS 2.0 ;->

Thanks for the humor Morbus! It's about time. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morbus Iff" <morbus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <rss-dev-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [RSS-DEV] Ann: RSS 2.0 ;-> > >OK, if that's the way it works, I assume it's OK with you if someone else > >comes up with "RSS 2.0" that: > > No, that won't work. We've got to pull a Netscape. Name it 3.0, than we can > all derisively scorn at the people still using *yawn* 1.0. And applaud the > people still using the "looks like a beta increment" .9x for their > elite/geek/oldskool mentality. > > :) > > > Morbus Iff > .sig on other machine. > http://www.disobey.com/ > http://www.gamegrene.com/ > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > rss-dev-unsubscribe-VgYJa0VH1e9BDgjK7y7TUQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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Re: Ann: RSS 2.0 ;->

Yesss! I'm going to give these guys the benefit of the doubt that they don't realize that in most people's minds "1.0" is superior to "0.92". Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Barr" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <rss-dev-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:33 AM Subject: RE: [RSS-DEV] Ann: RSS 2.0 ;-> > This is exactly why we need two names that can be on independent timelines > that do not beget simple comparision between version numbers to determine > goodness! > > Jeff; > > -----Original Message----- > From: Morbus Iff [mailto:morbus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:21 AM > To: rss-dev-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [RSS-DEV] Ann: RSS 2.0 ;-> > > > >OK, if that's the way it works, I assume it's OK with you if someone else > >comes up with "RSS 2.0" that: > > No, that won't work. We've got to pull a Netscape. Name it 3.0, than we can > all derisively scorn at the people still using *yawn* 1.0. And applaud the > people still using the "looks like a beta increment" .9x for their > elite/geek/oldskool mentality. > > :) > > > Morbus Iff > .sig on other machine. > http://www.disobey.com/ > http://www.gamegrene.com/ > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > rss-dev-unsubscribe-VgYJa0VH1e9BDgjK7y7TUQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > rss-dev-unsubscribe-VgYJa0VH1e9BDgjK7y7TUQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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