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Subject: Re: requirements - msg#00598
List: network.instant-messaging.amsn.devel
Done
Le 05-11-29 à 22:10, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer a écrit :
Nobody opposed to that, and I agree with you also, so I will just
add a msg_box on start of aMSN. Like TkCxImage. The decision to
drop TCL/TK 8.3 was already taken anyway.
There's no rush to remove all the "ifs" inside aMSN but now we can
do it slowly without having to wonder if we will get bugreport for
that.
Le 05-11-28 à 17:16, Thomas Geirhovd a écrit :
It doesn't make sense to partially 8.3. If aMSN don't work well with
it, and nobody cares enough to maintain 8.3 compatibility, it should
be dropped to save size, and make the code more readable. If someone
want's to add 8.3 support later, they can find the code in cvs. And
yes, we should display a warning. We don't want bugreports about
something we don't support, right?
On 11/27/05, Youness Alaoui <kakaroto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
since amsn now requires tcl/tk 8.4, should we change remove the
code that
depends on tcl 8.3 ?
there are some bugs with binword procs, maybe we should remove
the use of
these procs...
should we also display a warning if the user uses 8.3 ? and say
"upgrade
to tcl/tk 8.4 or you may suffer" ?
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Re: Fwd: Failed start with pt_br
We need an answer on that!
Harry? Pavel?
Unless you already replied to Youness, tell us if it's still a bug!
Le 05-11-27 à 16:04, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
Hi everyone,
it seems it's a known bug, I already heard something about it a few
weeks
ago, I just checked and it seems it's not fixed yet... or at least,
the
file is still langpt_BR...
I see thre are some other files in the same state, like fr_CA, zh-CN,
zh-TW... I don't know if they were fixed though...
I just noticed that the langlist file contains a pt_BR language..
maybe it
was fixed, but in the langlist file instead of the filename...
I just wanna make sure it's fixed before the release...
we also might want to change the zh-CN and zh-TW to zh_CN and zh_TW
(underscore instead of dash) in order to make the filenames consistent
with fr_CA and pt_BR... maybe post-0.95
------- Forwarded message -------
From: "Eduardo Jorge" <serrano.neves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: kakaroto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Failed start with pt_br
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:51:01 -0500
Hi,
I'm trying to start amsn, after the instalation, using pt_br and this
show me an error:
Error in startup script: couldn't open "lang/langpt_br" : no such file
or directory
and i look for dir lang, and the file is langpt_BR, and i move it to
langpt_br, and amsn starts ok.
i download the package:
Linux-i386 installer
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Re: Something else?!
Comments on that?
We ship it or not?
Le 05-11-27 à 10:22, Karel Demeyer a écrit :
I didn't follow the activities, so maybe it's already done, please
don't
shoot me, but I'd like to make sure the inkdraw plugin I made won't be
shipped with 0.95, as the inksending/receiving doesn't work all
time...
I don't want to be bothered with bugreports about it yet you see ;)
Great work guys!
Karel
On za, 2005-11-26 at 14:46 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
ok, here's the things I still think needs to be corrected before the
release (minor things)... these things are what I noticed after
extracting
the deb file (make deb && dpkg -x -d dpkg amsn_0.95....) :
* I suggest we add in /usr/bin/amsn-remote and /usr/bin/amsn-
remote-CLI
not just /usr/bin/amsn
* there is a ~/msn/sndplay file that should be removed (Jerome ?)
* when we create the deb file, there is a /usr/share/pixmaps/
msn.png that
points to the compile dir where the png file was :
kakaroto@kakaroto:~/msn/export/pkg/usr$ ls bin/ -l
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 kakaroto kakaroto 18 Nov 26 14:14 amsn -> ../share/
amsn/amsn*
kakaroto@kakaroto:~/msn/export/pkg/usr/share$ ls -l pixmaps/
total 4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 kakaroto kakaroto 72 Nov 26 14:14 msn.png ->
/home/kakaroto/msn/export/debian/amsn/usr/share/amsn/icons/48x48/
msn.png
you see, the bin points to the correct amsn file, but the msn.png
points
elsewhere .. I think it actually points to the temporary directory
when
the deb file was created...
* In the lang directory, there are some files that should be
removed :
LANG-HOWTO
genpage.c
missing.py
addkey.tcl
lang1.tmpl
lang2.tmpl
lang3.tmpl
langchk.sh
sortlang
complete.pl
convert.tcl
genlangfiles.c
and when I say removed, I'm talking about 'not included in the
package'
only!
* the AppMain.tcl file should be removed when we create a linux/
windows
package
* amsn.desktop can be removed from the /usr/share/amsn/ directory...
* the sxml.tcl file is made as executable, we should remove the
executable
flag...
* These utils/ subdir should be removed, as they are not used yet :
pixmapoption/ pixmapbutton/ pixmapprogbar/
and maybe scalable-bg/ too, we'll need to ask Tom, but from a
grep, it
seems it's only used in pixmapprogbar and pixmapbutton which are
removed
anyways...
* the pixmaps in utils/pixmapscroll/horizontal and
utils/pixmapscroll/vertical directories should be made skinable
(although
it might not be a good time to move all that)
* the webcamsn.tcl file in utils/webcamsn should be removed since
it was
only used as a test.tcl file...
* the utils/linux/capture/test.tcl file should be removed.
* the libtray.so should have a pkgIndex.tcl file with it and we
should do
a package require instead of a load... (it might not be a good
time to do
it also)
* fix the make deb so that it won't need to sign the deb file.. if
it's
needed to make an official release, then the package will have to
do that
additional step manually...
I'll remind you of my problem :
dpkg-deb: building package `amsn' in `../
amsn_0.95cvs-20051126_i386.deb'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kakaroto/msn/export'
dpkg-genchanges -b
dpkg-genchanges: binary-only upload - not including any source code
signfile amsn_0.95cvs-20051126_i386.changes
gpg: WARNING: unsafe permissions on configuration file
`/home/kakaroto/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
gpg: WARNING: unsafe enclosing directory permissions on
configuration file
`/home/kakaroto/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
gpg: skipped "Phil <lephilousophe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>": secret
key not
available
gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available
The deb file seems to be created and perfectly 'healty', it just
stays in
the parent directory...
* the control of the debian package might need some thing :
conflicts: ccmsn
depends: tcl8.4 tk8.4 tcltls
* I'd also need someone to do the exact same thing with rpm
files... I
don't know how it works, but I'll see if I can extract the rpm to a
directory...
* we might need to check for this kind of things also in the src
package
(cvs export)..
* one last thing... revert back the budy icons... please :(
KaKaRoTo
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:57:31 -0500, Youness Alaoui
<kakaroto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
humm... well, even daily is ok, but in a digest, will we get the
diff
too ? yes, and that's the problem, it's a pain in the ass to go
looking
for the comments individually...
anyways, now, I'm just looking at what CIA-13 has to say on the
amsn IRC
channel.. it gives me a summary
KaKaRoTo
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 06:30:09 -0500, Arieh Schneier
<lio_lion@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I was going to say to go to:
http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-commits
and set your option to digest, but then realised the digest is
daily
instead
of weekly.
Lio.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Youness Alaoui"
oups.. ok, sorry :)
I don't read the commits because I filter them, get them to another
directory (Opera names that a filter) and mark them as read.. if I
don't,
I'll have too much to look into and I don't have time to look at
normal
emails, so imagine with the commits...
it would be nice to have a digest of all commits once per week
so we can
look at what was done, but only get the message that was sent,
not the
diff...
maybe CIA would be a place to look at for this thing, but I
don't know
if
they have a "send me weekly summaries of the activities..." I'll
have to
look into that.
KaKaRoTo
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 16:25:21 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
<gagnonje5000@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hey, you should read the amsn-commits list, it was done on 17th
november ;-0
De : roadkillbunny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Objet : [Amsn-commits] msn autoupdate.tcl,1.32,1.33
Date : 17 novembre 2005 22:07:57 HNE
À : amsn-commits@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Update of /cvsroot/amsn/msn
In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv26417
Modified Files:
autoupdate.tcl
Log Message:
Fixed: autoupdate now checks for all 'sections' of release numbers
Index: autoupdate.tcl
==================================================================
=
RCS file: /cvsroot/amsn/msn/autoupdate.tcl,v
retrieving revision 1.32
retrieving revision 1.33
diff -C2 -d -r1.32 -r1.33
*** autoupdate.tcl 17 Sep 2005 16:32:31 -0000 1.32
--- autoupdate.tcl 18 Nov 2005 03:07:55 -0000 1.33
***************
*** 530,539 ****
set yourver [split $version "."]
! if { [lindex $lastver 0] > [lindex $yourver 0] } {
! set newer 1
! } else {
! # Major version is at least the same
! if { [lindex $lastver 1] > [lindex $yourver 1] } {
set newer 1
}
}
--- 530,537 ----
set yourver [split $version "."]
! for {set x 0} {$x<[llength "$lastver"]} {incr x} {
! if {[lindex $lastver $x] > [lindex $yourver $x]} {
set newer 1
+ break
}
}
Le 05-11-25 à 16:12, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
one more TODO item and pretty important :
Make sure the auto-updater recognizes 0.94 < 0.95 < 0.95.1 <
0.95.2
< 0.95.10 < 0.96
KKRT
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:56:18 -0500, Youness Alaoui
<kakaroto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, I do agree.. as I said, December 1st, if nothing major
appears, we release 0.95... if we can't fix the bug by december
1st, we'll use the orkaround and that's it...
Harry, maybe you didn't get the latest change because the
anonymous CVS wasn't up to date... JUST IN CASE, I would suggest
you get the latest cvs again and do a `make clean all`... if the
bug still happens, i would really appreciate it if you did like
you did at first : give us the backtrace of the segfault ...
without the backtrace from gdb, we can't find where the new bug
happens...
Thanks,
KaKaRoTo
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:06:19 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
<gagnonje5000@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Don't forget we just have to re-enable the check for the PWC
driver
at the start of aMSN. That way, the config buttons will just be
disabled so nobody will get a seg fault, that's not a
"serious bug"
for a release because we can prevent the bug from happening
(yes
it's
better to fix the bug but at least we can prevent it)
Le 05-11-25 à 14:09, Harry Vennik a écrit :
That is to say, we thought it would be fixed now, but it is
not.
At this moment I don't think anyone understands why the
change by
Phil didn't
fix it. I tried to find it out this morning, but no
success. I will
try again
tomorrow, if I don't get it again, and neither does anyone
else,
then I think
we should not have this prevent us from releasing 0.95,
even though
I regard
it as quite a serious bug.
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Re: requirements
Nobody opposed to that, and I agree with you also, so I will just add
a msg_box on start of aMSN. Like TkCxImage. The decision to drop TCL/
TK 8.3 was already taken anyway.
There's no rush to remove all the "ifs" inside aMSN but now we can do
it slowly without having to wonder if we will get bugreport for that.
Le 05-11-28 à 17:16, Thomas Geirhovd a écrit :
It doesn't make sense to partially 8.3. If aMSN don't work well with
it, and nobody cares enough to maintain 8.3 compatibility, it should
be dropped to save size, and make the code more readable. If someone
want's to add 8.3 support later, they can find the code in cvs. And
yes, we should display a warning. We don't want bugreports about
something we don't support, right?
On 11/27/05, Youness Alaoui <kakaroto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
since amsn now requires tcl/tk 8.4, should we change remove the
code that
depends on tcl 8.3 ?
there are some bugs with binword procs, maybe we should remove the
use of
these procs...
should we also display a warning if the user uses 8.3 ? and say
"upgrade
to tcl/tk 8.4 or you may suffer" ?
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Re: requirements
Thanks,
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:39:28 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
<gagnonje5000@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Done
Le 05-11-29 à 22:10, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer a écrit :
Nobody opposed to that, and I agree with you also, so I will just add a
msg_box on start of aMSN. Like TkCxImage. The decision to drop TCL/TK
8.3 was already taken anyway.
There's no rush to remove all the "ifs" inside aMSN but now we can do
it slowly without having to wonder if we will get bugreport for that.
Le 05-11-28 à 17:16, Thomas Geirhovd a écrit :
It doesn't make sense to partially 8.3. If aMSN don't work well with
it, and nobody cares enough to maintain 8.3 compatibility, it should
be dropped to save size, and make the code more readable. If someone
want's to add 8.3 support later, they can find the code in cvs. And
yes, we should display a warning. We don't want bugreports about
something we don't support, right?
On 11/27/05, Youness Alaoui <kakaroto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
since amsn now requires tcl/tk 8.4, should we change remove the code
that
depends on tcl 8.3 ?
there are some bugs with binword procs, maybe we should remove the
use of
these procs...
should we also display a warning if the user uses 8.3 ? and say
"upgrade
to tcl/tk 8.4 or you may suffer" ?
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