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RE: W2K delegation issue: msg#00165

Subject: RE: W2K delegation issue
Update.  After I sent this, I realized the the two servers experiencing =
the problem did NOT have the "forwarders {};" in their named.conf for =
"principal.com".  I added it in so they are the same.

Now I'm wondering...does that line still have an affect on how things =
work, even though I'm not using forwarders anymore?

I'm thinking it might...

-----Original Message-----
From: Treptow, Craig=20
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 4:45 PM
To: BIND List (E-mail)
Subject: W2K delegation issue


Hi.  We are running BIND 9.2.2 on Solaris 8.  We have an internal copy =
=3D
of the principal.com domain as well as an external copy hosted by our =
=3D
ISP.

Internally, we have delegated the corp subdomain for W2K usage:

In db.principal.com:

corp  3600  IN NS pfgdsmdc001.corp.principal.com.
corp  3600  IN NS pfgdsmdc002.corp.principal.com.
pfgdsmdc001.corp.principal.com.  IN A  162.131.5.74
pfgdsmdc002.corp.principal.com.  IN A  162.131.154.12

When looking up a host in one of the subdomains under corp =3D
(principalusa), you normally see this:

; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> pfgscldc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com a
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6119
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 17, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;pfgscldc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com. IN        A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
pfgscldc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com. 18 IN A 192.168.76.219

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgapndc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgbuedc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgdsmdc003.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgdsmdc004.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgdsmdc005.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgdsmdc006.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfggridc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfghkgdc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfglondc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgmdtdc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgmexdc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgmscdc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgmtydc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgscldc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgspkdc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgsyddc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 56 IN  NS      =3D
pfgwtldc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com.

;; Query time: 9 msec
;; SERVER: 162.131.23.103#53(162.131.23.103)
;; WHEN: Fri Jul 18 16:34:59 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 507

or this:

; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> pfgscldc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com a
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22794
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;pfgscldc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com. IN        A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
pfgscldc001.principalusa.corp.principal.com. 300 IN A 192.168.76.219

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 3600 IN NS     =3D
pfgdsmdc003.principalusa.corp.principal.com.
principalusa.corp.principal.com. 3600 IN NS     =3D
pfgdsmdc004.principalusa.corp.principal.com.

;; Query time: 18 msec
;; SERVER: 162.131.23.103#53(162.131.23.103)
;; WHEN: Fri Jul 18 16:35:45 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 129

Sometimes we see this, though:

; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> pfgdsmdc004.principalusa.corp.principal.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 58515
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;pfgdsmdc004.principalusa.corp.principal.com. IN        A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
principal.com.          8517    IN      SOA     dnspri.sys.gtei.net. =3D
dns-admin.bbnplanet.com. 2003071750 3600 900 864000 86400

;; Query time: 7 msec
;; SERVER: 162.131.23.103#53(162.131.23.103)
;; WHEN: Thu Jul 17 16:45:15 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 136

Here are some sections from named.conf:

options {
        directory "/usr/dns/bind/data";
        pid-file "/usr/dns/bind/etc/named.pid";
        listen-on port 53 { 162.131.38.89; };
        notify yes;
        query-source address 162.131.38.89 port *;
        transfer-source 162.131.38.89;
        notify-source 162.131.38.89;
        allow-query { any; };
        allow-transfer { localhost; };
        transfer-format many-answers;
        recursive-clients 4000;
        tcp-clients 100;
        provide-ixfr yes;
};

zone "principal.com" IN {
        type master;
        file "master/db.principal.com";
        allow-update {none;};
        allow-transfer =3D
{localhost;dns-secondary-servers;midrange-servers;};
        also-notify { 162.131.46.68; 162.131.62.180; };
        forwarders {};
};

We used to forward to our ISP's name servers, but we don't anymore, so =
=3D
can I get rid of the forwarders line under the principal.com zone =3D
definition?

More importantly, does anybody have any idea what is going on?  It acts =
=3D
like when this happens, it doesn't know anything about any domain ending =
=3D
in "principal.com" and shoves the request out the Internet.  Could I be =
=3D
getting bad data from one of the W2K DC's sometimes?  Or could something =
=3D
else be causing this?  Is it my forwarders line?

The only solution I have when this happens is "rndc flush".


Any help or ideas with this will be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks!

Craig





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