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modelling mic-preamps and Gibson MAGIC (was: fun with hacking Magic): msg#00176

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Subject: modelling mic-preamps and Gibson MAGIC (was: fun with hacking Magic)

--- In midiguitar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Tom May <tom@xxxx> wrote:
> Tom May <tom@xxxx> writes:

> Further thoughts: with TCP, if you drop a packet things will get
> gummed up for a while as TCP does its timeout and retransmit, which
is
> no good for low latency transmission (it's ok for say streaming mp3
> because that is high latency) because there will be a large glitch
in
> the sound and there will need to be late packet handling code in the
> application layer. With UDP you just forget about the packet and
move
> on with a small glitch in the sound. So given a choice between TCP
> and UDP for a realtime streaming protocol, Gibson made the right
> choice.

Yup, just posted something saying the same thing. :-)

>
> Also, it is possible to inject data into an established TCP stream
> similar to injecting into a UDP stream by spoofing the source IP
> address, but in the TCP case you need to know the sequence number,
but
> if you can sniff the UDP parameters you can sniff a TCP sequence
> number just as easily.
>

But the thing is that it is much more complicated to hijack a TCP
connection. You are going to have to flood the source in order for
your sequenced packets to really get through to the destination.

You're gonna have to make sure that you have a big enough pipe and
CPU power to flood and inject raw packets w/ TCP.

You don't necessarily have to worry so much about that with UDP.

I wonder how all of this is going to sound with the digital
converting, at what bit/resolution they will do it with, and what
kind of effect it will have on tone for the amp/guitar combo.

I think that the (guitar) tone snobs out there will probably end up
with a traditional setup, and use MAGIC-enabled mics to mic their
amps.

The cool thing is that you can do some nifty mic modeling once in the
digital realm, so a cheapy MAGIC-mic will (have the potential to)
sound WAY better than an equivalent SM-57 or something.

Even if you can't exactly mimic all of the characteristics of a nice
Neuman Tube mic you can get close enough so that it will put the
standard SM-57 to shame, and it won't cost you (hopefully) 4 figures
for the mic!

Now that I think about it, I am surprised that no one (save Yamaha's
AG-stomp) has come out with a "modelling" mic-pre! We have modelling
amps, guitars, Roland's VG series, modelling synths, etc. A
Modelling mic-pre that can not only model different mics, but also
different mic-pres (imagine a modelled Neve Mic-pre. Sweet!!!).

Anyone know if such a thing is in development? Studios, both
home/project, and big-time studios would buy the hell out of these,
as would touring companies, etc.

Alex F/Brain21


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