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Colin Thomson wrote:
What means "Mozilla/5.0", "rv:1.0.2" ?

Mozilla/5.0 is just the start of the useragent... basically all browsers start with Mozilla/ (for compatibility reasons... MSIE originally copied that from Netscape)

1.0.2 means the build is created from the 1.0 branch of mozilla at time of the 1.0.2 release.

Some one please correct me if I'm wrong but..

Windows NT 5.0 should be Windows XP,

No, Windows 2000. XP is 5.1 I believe.

the 20021120 is the build date 20/11/2002,

less ambiguous would be Nov. 20, 2002

Mozilla 'cause NS7 is based on Mozilla...any one with info on the bits I've missed please let me know.

No, that reasoning is wrong. Netscape (the old one) was internally codenamed Mozilla, and sent Mozilla/x.y in its useragent string. When MSIE arrived, it sent Mozilla/4.0 (not quite sure about the version), because that's the string browser detectors expected.

Mozilla and Netscape just continued using Mozilla/x.y.


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Re: What says "About Netscape" me ??!!

Colin Thomson wrote: Stefan Frasch wrote: Hi ! I have installed Netscape 7.01 and when I click to "help" menu, "about Netscape" some information about Netscape is showed. But what means this direct ? " Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de-DE; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01" What means "Mozilla/5.0", "rv:1.0.2" ? Some one please correct me if I'm wrong but.. Windows NT 5.0 should be Windows XP, Windows NT 5.0 is actually Windows 2000. Windows XP is NT 5.1. :) the 20021120 is the build date 20/11/2002, Mozilla 'cause NS7 is based on Mozilla... The rv:1.0.2 bit shows the version of Mozilla the browser is based on. The Mozilla bit at the start dates right back to the code name for Netscape Navigator (version 2, I think). MS IE copied it to get past the basic sniffing back then, and it's sort-of suck since. -- James Ross <silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. -- Ken Olsen, President, Chairman and Founder of Digital Equipment Corporation, 1977.

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Neil wrote: Mark B. Elrod wrote: I have followed the build instructions yet I get an error during compile that does not make sense to me: C:\local\home\elrod\mozilla>make -f client.mk build_all Adding client.mk options from C:\moztools\mozconfig.txt: MOZ_THUNDERBIRD=1 make make[1]: Entering directory `/home/elrod/mozilla' You must move your build, or unmap C:\local\home\elrod from cygwin so that the path appears as /cygwin/c/local/home/elrod, otherwise cygwin-wrapper cannot translate it back into the drive letter that VC expects. Ahhh.. That did it. I moved it to c:\temp\mozilla and it builds fine now. Someone might want to make the same note about not having the source in the cygwin tree as is currently done for the moztools. Thanks for the help! elrod

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Colin Thomson wrote: Stefan Frasch wrote: Hi ! I have installed Netscape 7.01 and when I click to "help" menu, "about Netscape" some information about Netscape is showed. But what means this direct ? " Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de-DE; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01" What means "Mozilla/5.0", "rv:1.0.2" ? Some one please correct me if I'm wrong but.. Windows NT 5.0 should be Windows XP, Windows NT 5.0 is actually Windows 2000. Windows XP is NT 5.1. :) the 20021120 is the build date 20/11/2002, Mozilla 'cause NS7 is based on Mozilla... The rv:1.0.2 bit shows the version of Mozilla the browser is based on. The Mozilla bit at the start dates right back to the code name for Netscape Navigator (version 2, I think). MS IE copied it to get past the basic sniffing back then, and it's sort-of suck since. -- James Ross <silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. -- Ken Olsen, President, Chairman and Founder of Digital Equipment Corporation, 1977.

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Re: What says "About Netscape" me ??!!

["Followup-To:" header set to netscape.public.mozilla.unix.] On 2003-11-27, Stefan Frasch <stefan_frasch@xxxxxx> wrote: > I have installed Netscape 7.01 and when I click to "help" menu, "about > Netscape" some information about > Netscape is showed. But what means this direct ? > > " Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de-DE; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 > Netscape/7.01" > > What means "Mozilla/5.0" "Mozilla" is the name used by Netscape to refer to the browser code base. Mozilla/4 refers to Netscape version 4; Mozilla/5 refers to the newer code base. > "rv:1.0.2" ? That is the Mozilla version upon which Netscape-7.01 is based. It is fairly old at this point. You may want to update to Netscape-7.1 or Mozilla-1.5 instead. -- -John (JohnThompson@xxxxxxxxxx)
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