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RE: Turning Razor into a censorship tool: msg#00053

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Subject: RE: Turning Razor into a censorship tool

So what do you suggest be done? These are the same complaints that are
heard for any anti-spam initiative whether it's RBL, DNSBLs, content
checking, etc but none of it will dissuade people from using them. In
the case for Razor, the understanding is that a TES score falls more
rapidly than it rises. In the case of DCC or Pyzor, you can use your
own databases(you can for Razor if you have the money and pound the
public servers a lot). In the case for Spamassassin, you create your
own rules and whitelists. There's nothing that you can do about
recipients outside your domain other than complain to the individual
postmasters of those other domains.





-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Perkel [mailto:marc@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:04 AM
To: razor-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Razor-users] Turning Razor into a censorship tool


In relation to the moveon.org situation, let me create a hypethetical
scenereo.

I personally run two mail servers., one for myself and one for EFF. The
server I own hosts about 25 email domains. I get a lot of email traffic
and thousands of spam messages a day. I use spam assassin and I could
take the very high scoring spam as well as spam already flagged by razor

and report it building an electronic reputation that makes me a reliable

source - having correctly reported thousands of spam messages a day.

Having established my reputation, I then also include all mail coming
from a number of organization who I don't like politically. The moment
these messages hit my server I forward them to razor and after several
are automatically reported, razor flags this as spam and thousands of
other servers who rely on razor start marking all message coming from
the affected sites as spam. By the time someone manually revokes the
messages the damage is already done. And thus someone like me could
censor sites that I don't agree with politically.

So - what would stop me from gaming razor this way to use it as a mass
censorship tool to silence those who disagree with me?




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