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Re: env_from set to <> after Z action: msg#00120

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Subject: Re: env_from set to <> after Z action

What we'd really like is debugging -- but as a lighter weight way to get at least
some additional information if it happens again, how about setting some more logging
options. I'm thinking particularly of LOG_PROCESS and LOG_FILENAME, but maybe
LOG_FILTER too. Then if it does happen again, please open a case and send support
an entire, unsanitized chunk of mail.log* around the occurrence -- your comment that
it only happened during a time of heavy spam load makes me wonder if it was just one
thread that seemed to "lose" the envelope From (and if so, what were other threads in
that process doing around that same time), or multiple threads?

Do you use the FROM_ACCESS mapping table? If so, what's in it?

Regards,

Kristin

On Jun 24, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Jesse Thompson wrote:

Ned Freed wrote:
I'm more suspicious that the message didn't have an envelope from to begin with.

No, it didn't. Here are the [sanitized] logs:

here is the log of the normal enqueue:

21-Jun-2008 06:11:11.92 tcp_intranet avs EE 6
LOCALUSER-F1FbuMAf82JPjaDqJt1ogQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
rfc822;REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<e53191252b2e.485cefe0-F1FbuMAf82JPjaDqJt1ogQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> mailsrv
LOCAL.DOMAIN (STORE.LOCAL.DOMAIN [1.2.3.4])

21-Jun-2008 06:11:14.01 avs tcp_local E 7
LOCALUSER-F1FbuMAf82JPjaDqJt1ogQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
rfc822;REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<e53191252b2e.485cefe0-F1FbuMAf82JPjaDqJt1ogQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> mailsrv
avs-daemon.MTA.LOCAL.DOMAIN

21-Jun-2008 06:11:14.11 avs D 6
LOCALUSER-F1FbuMAf82JPjaDqJt1ogQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
rfc822;REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<e53191252b2e.485cefe0-F1FbuMAf82JPjaDqJt1ogQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> mailsrv

here's the enqueue of the rewritten form of the message:

21-Jun-2008 06:11:16.09 avs tcp_local E 7
rfc822;REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<e53191252b2e.485cefe0-F1FbuMAf82JPjaDqJt1ogQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> mailsrv avs-daemon.MTA.LOCAL.DOMAIN

here is the Z rejection of the original form of the message:

21-Jun-2008 06:11:16.09 tcp_local ZE 7
LOCALUSER-F1FbuMAf82JPjaDqJt1ogQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
rfc822;REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<e53191252b2e.485cefe0-F1FbuMAf82JPjaDqJt1ogQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> mailsrv
REMOTE.DOMAIN dns;REMOTE.DOMAIN (TCP|2.3.4.5|59912|3.4.5.6|25)
(REMOTE.SERVER ESMTP **************************) smtp;552
<REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: Recipient address rejected: 5.2.2 Over quota

the Q entry repeats indefinitely...

21-Jun-2008 06:11:16.22 tcp_local QE 6
rfc822;REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<e53191252b2e.485cefe0-F1FbuMAf82JPjaDqJt1ogQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> mailsrv
dns;REMOTE.DOMAIN
(TCP|2.3.4.5|59912|3.4.5.6|25) (REMOTE.SERVER ESMTP
**************************) smtp;552
<REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Recipient address rejected: 5.2.2 Over quota
REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
smtp;552 <REMOTEUSER-RKDGOo/4GHQ9E24vwMF+KA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: R




But the only way to figure out what's happening is to get some
debugging going.

I can't simulate it. I tried using the same recipient address, using
the same production server environment.

This happened when one of our local user accounts was compromised by a
spammer and used to send thousands of messages out via our webmail
interface. The vast majority of the queued messages had the env_from
set to the original address. Around 100 had the env_from set to <>.

Jesse




Ned


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Jesse Thompson
Email/IM: jesse.thompson-gHeKliYv1294piUD7e9S/g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx




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