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Subject: return_job and the difference between imsimta view database | directory

I have a large disparity in the number of messages my mta reports it has to deliver. tcp_local thinks that
the oldest mail on the filesystem has an internal date of Sep 15. However, the database says everything is current.
Sometimes, I can do a read on these old files, other times the messages do not exist on the filesystem.

This leads me to believe return_job is not doing its job, but after turning on RETURN_DEBUG=1 in the option.dat
file I get:
Inquiring job_controller for messages requiring notification...
All messages requiring notification at this time processed.

The defaults for all my channels include:
!
! part II : channel blocks
!
defaults logging notices 1 2 3 4 nowarnpost nosendpost postheadonly noswitchchannel immnonurgent maxjobs 7

So I should have no mail older than 4 days. Out of my 30+ mtas's only 3 of my heavy duty mta's "appear" to keep get rid of all mail and bounces after 4 days. The rest need manual intervention.


It is believed these "nonexistent" and "undying" messages affect the performance of my mta's regardless of what the database believes it has to work with. Which view is telling the truth and why doesn't return_job kill the seemingly old files? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Donald Richardson
Verizon Messaging

./imsimta version
Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)
libimta.so 6.2-6.01 (built 11:20:35, Apr 3 2006)
SunOS vms169121 5.9 Generic_118558-39 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V890

Below is a summary command for view directory, then view database, after a complete restart of the system.

qm.maint> sum
Messages
Channel Queued Size (Kb) Oldest
-------------------------------- -------- ----------- -----------------
tcp_yahoo 11 119.63 15 Oct, 18:55:56
tcp_netscape 0 0.00
tcp_msn 0 0.00
tcp_local 73701 2879407.01 15 Sep, 05:27:24
tcp_lmtp_resst9v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst91v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst8v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst5v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst4v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst3v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst2v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst236v 1 2.66 17 Oct, 11:06:04
tcp_lmtp_resst1v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst190v 5 32.11 17 Oct, 11:06:04
tcp_lmtp_resst189v 3 335.44 17 Oct, 11:06:04
tcp_lmtp_resst188v 5 40.51 17 Oct, 11:06:04
tcp_lmtp_resst187v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst186v 2 33.36 17 Oct, 11:06:04
tcp_lmtp_resst185v 3 1269.22 17 Oct, 11:06:04
tcp_lmtp_resst168063v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168061v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168025v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168023v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168021v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168019v 1 2.94 17 Oct, 11:06:04
tcp_lmtp_resst168015v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168013v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168011v 3 36.18 17 Oct, 11:06:04
tcp_lmtp_resst168009v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst166v 3 30.18 17 Oct, 11:06:04
tcp_lmtp_resst165v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst12v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst11v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst10v 0 0.00
tcp_intranet 2 13.44 17 Oct, 10:21:00
tcp_hotmail 0 0.00
tcp_gmail 0 0.00
tcp_earthlink 4 445.10 14 Oct, 05:23:48
tcp_aol 0 0.00
reprocess 182 17904.18 12 Oct, 01:30:20
process 15 97.53 17 Oct, 11:06:00
hold 0 0.00
-------------------------------- -------- ----------- -----------------
Totals 73941 2899769.50
qm.maint> view database
View set to database
qm.maint> sum
Messages
Channel Queued Size (Kb) Oldest
-------------------------------- -------- ----------- -----------------
tcp_yahoo 3 27.00 17 Oct, 11:05:03
tcp_netscape 0 0.00
tcp_msn 0 0.00
tcp_local 13851 340221.00 17 Oct, 09:32:56
tcp_lmtp_resst9v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst91v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst8v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst5v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst4v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst3v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst2v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst236v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst1v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst190v 5 58.00 17 Oct, 11:07:05
tcp_lmtp_resst189v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst188v 2 271.00 17 Oct, 11:07:04
tcp_lmtp_resst187v 1 6.00 17 Oct, 11:07:04
tcp_lmtp_resst186v 8 116.00 17 Oct, 11:07:04
tcp_lmtp_resst185v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168063v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168061v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168025v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168023v 1 7.00 17 Oct, 11:07:05
tcp_lmtp_resst168021v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168019v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168015v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168013v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168011v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst168009v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst166v 1 990.00 17 Oct, 11:07:05
tcp_lmtp_resst165v 18 508.00 17 Oct, 11:07:04
tcp_lmtp_resst12v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst11v 0 0.00
tcp_lmtp_resst10v 0 0.00
tcp_intranet 0 0.00
tcp_hotmail 1 39.00 17 Oct, 11:07:04
tcp_gmail 0 0.00
tcp_earthlink 0 0.00
tcp_aol 0 0.00
reprocess 0 0.00
process 6 115.00 17 Oct, 11:06:55
hold 0 0.00
-------------------------------- -------- ----------- -----------------
Totals 13897 342358.00
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