--- Raphaël Berbain <raphael.berbain@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> * Daniel Robitaille:
>
> > On Mon, 2005-18-04 at 06:18 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> >> I don't think we have good stats on live cd usage. I'm interested if you
> >> guys think a live-cd-based installer (boot the live cd, like it, say
> >> "install" and it does so) would be popular, as that's one area we could
> >> devote resources.
> >
> > That option to install from a LiveCD seems to be relatively popular with
> > Knoppix;
>
> I think the install from LiveCD option is popular with Knoppix because
> installing Debian is [perceived] as being hard. Thus, I think Knoppix
> is viewed as 2 products, really: OT1H a LiveCD, and OTOH an easier
> Debian installer system - well, basically a Debian installer with good
> h/w detection.
I haven't installed Ubuntu. I'm a Debian user. Doesn't Ubuntu use the
same D-I (Debian-Installer) as Debian? D-I has got great h/w detection.
> Will Ubuntu be easier to install from the LiveCD ? Since Ubuntu's
> install CD h/w detection is as good as the LiveCD's, I don't think
> there is a need to combine both. Plus, Ubuntu's shipit program ships
> both CDs.
But if the install CD *is* the live CD, you wouldn't even need to
use this "shipit" program. Just have a menu pop up upon booting
that says, "Install or just boot Ubuntu this one time?".
> Another pov is a simple cost/benefit analysis: What does Ubuntu gain
> by combining both functions on one CD ? On the top of my head, that's
> only one CD to ship, so maybe decreased shipit costs. Plus, that's a
> nice trick, some geek points.
>
> OTOH, What does it lose ? Sweat, time, resources, new bugs, new
> support issues, new CD space constraints.
There should be *less* sweat required, since you've only got to deal
with one product instead of two. Re. space constraints, you've already
pretty much got the same software on the live CD as the install CD, no?
> I'd vote for resources allocated to the install from floppy disks +
> network problem over install from LiveCD, since it's a recurrent
> request on the mailing lists. Even if it's not that related, It would
> also help market Ubuntu in the server space.
Huh? Server space?
I thought it goes:
Debian Stable -- servers
Debian Sid/Testing -- Debian devs, enthusiasts, maybe admins
Ubuntu -- corporate desktop and home desktop users (with patches
funnelled back to Sid), maybe admins.
---J
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