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Re: Skubuntu Screenshots: msg#00069

Subject: Re: Skubuntu Screenshots
OK, I see I have the wrong end of the stick. You are no longer using K12LTSP at all.

So now what happens to those 100 plus schools where the Tuxlabs are K12LTSP based?

What's the upgrade process? How does data, home directories and usernames get easily imported into what is a very different distro? I am asking this because I am interested in converting about 33 schools, widely dispersed over four provinces to the Ubuntu-based distro. Since the cost of going to each site to upgrade is prohibitive, we need a way for the centre manager to just boot off a CD and K12LTSP magically becomes Skubuntu. This is a big ask, I know, but essential, since our site admins (with maybe one or two exceptions) do not yet have the technical expertise to manually back up user data and usernames, install a new distro and put everything back.

Comments?

cheers
ed


On 20 Jun 2005, at 8:55 AM, Jonathan Carter wrote:

Hi Edward


1. Which version of K12LTSP does Skubuntu use?


It uses Ubuntu 5.04 - Hoary. Skubuntu started out as some script to customise K12LTSP, but now it's been moved over to Ubuntu. The original tuXlab scripts only made some modifications to the lts.conf and some other files and themes, now, it adds LTSP and a whole bunch of other stuff to Ubuntu, so it's changed completely.


2. How does Tuxlab with it's extensive modifications, handle K12LTSP upgrades? e.g. will there be a new build of Tuxlab for each new release of K12LTSP (of course until Edubuntu is released), can a standard K12LTSP new release simply be installed on top of Tuxlab?


Let's replace K12LTSP with Ubuntu in this question :)

Yes, the plan is to have at least a 'skubuntu' release with every enterprise release of Ubuntu, and perhaps use the inbetween Ubuntu versions as preview releases. Who knows, perhaps I'll manage full releaases with every release of Ubuntu, it also depends on the outcomes of edubuntu.


3. Following on the above: If Skubuntu "may die" what happens to all the schools that have already installed it? Will upgrades continue to be available to them? or must they change to something else (Edubuntu) if they wish to remain up to date?


I'm glad you asked this. Skubuntu is based directly off Ubuntu, if a school wants to switch to Edubuntu, they would simply insert their EdUbuntu CD and select the appropriate meta-package. Or at least, that's the plan according to the wiki :). Perhaps you'd just add the CD in Synaptic and do a dist-upgrade. This is something I'll sort out when EdUbuntu hits release.

When Edubuntu is released though, Skubuntu will be an add-on to EdUbuntu, rather than a plain Ubuntu, so if Skubuntu will die, it will have a small effect on on the schools, since Skubuntu will only be an add-on containing things like Moodle, etc. which might be included in EdUbuntu by default in the end.

The most likely path of Skubuntu's death would be if it's obsoleted by EdUbuntu, which isn't at all a bad thing. Until EdUbuntu suits the purpose of the tuXlab project, Skubuntu will be going on adding stuff to it to make it more suitable for schools.

-Jonathan






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