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Re: POLL: Fedora KDE Users

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: Hello I'm just doing a survey on 1. what window decorator Fedora KDE users like 2. why they choose KDE in hope that possibly these datas might be useful for FC7 :) http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2006/10/poll-fedora-kde-users.html#links Again, this is not intended to flame wars, but to better know where to go with UnleashKDE http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UnleashKDE chitlesh Probably more than you want but here goes anyway ... To answer your second question first, I started off many years ago using RH7 (or earlier if that was even possible) with Sawfish. Life was good. Then Gnome happened along and still life with Sawfish was OK. At some point I discovered what has become the B2 (or B II or ...) window decoration style which really resonated with me. But along came Metacity, which to this day I consider evil, mainly because it regressed in functionality from what it replaced and has remained a second class window manager to this very day. Early in Metacity's life I tried KDE and just could not get the excitement others expressed about it. Early KDE for me just did not resonate. I found the graphics so cartoon like as to be a constant distraction. Then, somewhere around FC3, I discovered Xfce and it was like this was the desktop I would have created, if only I had another 24 hours in each day to become a desktop hacker. And Xfce was good enough ... until 4.4 arrived on the scene. I had to have it. And I got it, only on Fedora (rawhide) it came at a huge cost: lots of bugs, special repos, slow response to bugs, teasing functionality, dual head headaches, ... A few weeks ago I visited a co-worker who just happened to be running a B2 like theme on KDE. That was all I needed. A few days ago I installed the KDE rpms on my rawhide laptop and I am now loving KDE. Which is all a long winded answer to your first question that "B II" is my window decorator of choice. Along with the standard KDE theme. I find that KDE now looks every bit as professional as does Gnome. Like Gnome, it is much bigger than Xfce but with fractional terabyte disks, gigabytes of memory and billions of CPU cycles running on multiple CPUs, very high resolution monitor(s), all for a few thousand dollars, on a laptop at that. So a little desktop bloat is not so bad. And I'm not feeling any pain from the KDE size and pure joy about all that wonderful, powerful and polished functionality. I'm hooked. -pmr -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

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Re: Ubuntu Release Party in Beijing, what about Fedora?

On Sun, 29/10/06, Francesco Ugolini wrote: >> >> Since no reply in tree days, I guess people are content with current >> situation. >> >> I have to say I admire Mark for his effort to promote Ubuntu, make it >> approachable to everybody. >> >> I hope the following still holds: >> >> Technology-wise Fedora is still in the lead. >> >> > Hellp Leo, > > I want to underline two things: first Fedora is a community based > project and it only sponsored by Red Hat and, second, in many cities > and countries ambassadors organize event such as installation day > etc... If you want to organize an event you can do it and you can > request materials such as t-shirt and dvd (you have to be a marketing > or ambassador member for this) compiling the form. > >From the Ubuntu website: ,---- | Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available | with both community and professional support. It is developed by a | large *community* and we invite you to participate too! `---- So far almost every freely available GNU/Linux is a community based project. > Ubuntu is different from Fedora and, i think, this would mean that we > have different goals (and similiar ones): this is our, and their, > strenght. We organize, during the year, houndred and houndred of event > everywhere, most of all are local event (e.g. suniversity event) and > _all_ are organized by people that spend their free time talking with > other about Fedora and Open Source. So does Ubuntu. Why Mark pick Beijing to go is something we can think about. > > Thanks for your opinion > > Francesco Ugolini -- Leo -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

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Re: POLL: Fedora KDE Users

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: Hello I'm just doing a survey on 1. what window decorator Fedora KDE users like 2. why they choose KDE in hope that possibly these datas might be useful for FC7 :) http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2006/10/poll-fedora-kde-users.html#links Again, this is not intended to flame wars, but to better know where to go with UnleashKDE http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UnleashKDE chitlesh Probably more than you want but here goes anyway ... To answer your second question first, I started off many years ago using RH7 (or earlier if that was even possible) with Sawfish. Life was good. Then Gnome happened along and still life with Sawfish was OK. At some point I discovered what has become the B2 (or B II or ...) window decoration style which really resonated with me. But along came Metacity, which to this day I consider evil, mainly because it regressed in functionality from what it replaced and has remained a second class window manager to this very day. Early in Metacity's life I tried KDE and just could not get the excitement others expressed about it. Early KDE for me just did not resonate. I found the graphics so cartoon like as to be a constant distraction. Then, somewhere around FC3, I discovered Xfce and it was like this was the desktop I would have created, if only I had another 24 hours in each day to become a desktop hacker. And Xfce was good enough ... until 4.4 arrived on the scene. I had to have it. And I got it, only on Fedora (rawhide) it came at a huge cost: lots of bugs, special repos, slow response to bugs, teasing functionality, dual head headaches, ... A few weeks ago I visited a co-worker who just happened to be running a B2 like theme on KDE. That was all I needed. A few days ago I installed the KDE rpms on my rawhide laptop and I am now loving KDE. Which is all a long winded answer to your first question that "B II" is my window decorator of choice. Along with the standard KDE theme. I find that KDE now looks every bit as professional as does Gnome. Like Gnome, it is much bigger than Xfce but with fractional terabyte disks, gigabytes of memory and billions of CPU cycles running on multiple CPUs, very high resolution monitor(s), all for a few thousand dollars, on a laptop at that. So a little desktop bloat is not so bad. And I'm not feeling any pain from the KDE size and pure joy about all that wonderful, powerful and polished functionality. I'm hooked. -pmr -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

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Re: POLL: Fedora KDE Users

On 29/10/06, Chitlesh GOORAH <chitlesh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hello I'm just doing a survey on 1. what window decorator Fedora KDE users like 2. why they choose KDE in hope that possibly these datas might be useful for FC7 :) http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2006/10/poll-fedora-kde-users.html#links Again, this is not intended to flame wars, but to better know where to go with UnleashKDE http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UnleashKDE chitlesh My answers are not included in your radio-boxed answers. So I'll let you know: * I love Kate. The built in file browser is exacly what I need for managing tens of websites on a dozen servers via the fish protocol. * The fish protocol. Like said, it's great for managing lots of remote machines. It works with Konqi, Kate, and all the other KDE apps. I love it. * The panel clock. I have mine set to actually spell out the time, and it's in my native language (Hebrew). I love that to death. I find clocks very stressful, and this is the only clock that doesn't stress me out. * dcop * Koffice. Specifically, Kword and Kspread. Lightweight programs that don't crash and don't take a year to start. * Small apps like KColourChooser, KolourPaint, Kopete, Konqueror, Konsole. They are each almost perfect. I could go on an on. * Amarok is exactly what I want in a music player. The only Gnome app that I really like is F-Spot. DigiKam just doesn't live up to F-Spot. Dotan Cohen http://dotancohen.com http://what-is-what.com/what_is/sitepoint.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list