Re: governance, fesco, board, etc.

On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 10:40 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 07:40 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > > * Before: FE had a functional work-flow, functional simple reviews,
> > >   functional bugzilla, some bureaucracy, non-functional QA.
> > >   Now: koji, bodhi, flagged-reviews, broken bugzilla, more bureaucracy,
> > >   still non-functional QA.
> > 
> > I've seen you say this.  I think I have seen other contributors agree
> > with some of those points.  We're addressing them as fast as we can.
> 
> And in support Ralf's point that we need to pursue releasing early and
> releasing often,
... when something is "ready" and stable enough. 

>  thanks to rel-eng and QA for DOING EXACTLY THAT.
... if they also apply "Fix early, fix ASAP" ...

> We can't wait for the new QA system to be perfect before we start using
> it, can we?  That is the Cathedral model.
Right, but ... prematurely deploying something and ignoring
bugs/deficiencies etc. also doesn't help anybody.

Ralf