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Re: CD writing in ext2 filesystem

On Thursday 25 April 2002 17:00, Suriya Narayanan M S wrote: > On Wednesday 24 April 2002 15:15, Paul Furness wrote: > > Is there a particular reason why you were trying to put an ext2 fiole > > system on the CD rather than an ISO9660 one? > > Yes. One would like to have all the filesystems to be of the same > type. It would be easier to handle and there would be no > inconsistencies. It (the one you use regularly) is the best filesystem > to backup data. > > But the main advantage (of using ext2) is that you get a > filesystem which is the same as your native system. Permissions, > ownership, symlinks, pipes, device files..... (all the great features > of ext2) get taken care of. Most of the above would > not be possible with iso9660. The Rockridge extensions handle them > well. However it too has a problem with the maximum depth > of a directory tree. UUM, excuse me for only thinking, but, if one creates a tarball and then burns it to a cd, one then has the same, or am i missing something here.????? How do you think a linux distribution comes on a cdrom.???? Its iso9660 of course, but when its copied onto a H/D it has permissions of its piers. I do not see your point of view here, if i am missing something please tell me, i am at a loss as to what in the world it could be. > > If you do not need your CD to be accessed on other OSs > then ext2 is the best bet. > > Bye, > Suriya Narayanan M S -- Regards Richard pa3gcu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs

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Re: CD writing in ext2 filesystem

> > > Is there a particular reason why you were trying to put an ext2 fiole > > > system on the CD rather than an ISO9660 one? ... > > But the main advantage (of using ext2) is that you get a > > filesystem which is the same as your native system. Permissions, > > ownership, symlinks, pipes, device files..... (all the great features > > of ext2) get taken care of. Most of the above would > > not be possible with iso9660. The Rockridge extensions handle them > > well. However it too has a problem with the maximum depth > > of a directory tree. > UUM, excuse me for only thinking, but, if one creates a tarball and then > burns it to a cd, one then has the same, or am i missing something here.????? You'll get everything he listed, but ext2 has a few exotic features that tar doesn't: 1) ACLs and EAs (if you have the patches from acl.bestbits.at) 2) HURD translator and author data 3) Sparse files 4) The noatime, sync, append only, compressed, nodump, immutable, journaled, secure delete, and undeletable attributes. Very few of these are generally useful, and numbers 1 and 4 need unusual patches to use fully, but they are there for a reason, and most tars don't support them. Plus, in the future, we're likely to get multiple file forks, which really will need backing up. Burning an ext2 image onto a CD is a strange thing to do, but not without its merit. Steven Smith, sos22@xxxxxxxxxx pgpK8mWdTZaeN.pgp Description: PGP signature

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Re: CD writing in ext2 filesystem

On Thursday 25 April 2002 17:00, Suriya Narayanan M S wrote: > On Wednesday 24 April 2002 15:15, Paul Furness wrote: > > Is there a particular reason why you were trying to put an ext2 fiole > > system on the CD rather than an ISO9660 one? > > Yes. One would like to have all the filesystems to be of the same > type. It would be easier to handle and there would be no > inconsistencies. It (the one you use regularly) is the best filesystem > to backup data. > > But the main advantage (of using ext2) is that you get a > filesystem which is the same as your native system. Permissions, > ownership, symlinks, pipes, device files..... (all the great features > of ext2) get taken care of. Most of the above would > not be possible with iso9660. The Rockridge extensions handle them > well. However it too has a problem with the maximum depth > of a directory tree. UUM, excuse me for only thinking, but, if one creates a tarball and then burns it to a cd, one then has the same, or am i missing something here.????? How do you think a linux distribution comes on a cdrom.???? Its iso9660 of course, but when its copied onto a H/D it has permissions of its piers. I do not see your point of view here, if i am missing something please tell me, i am at a loss as to what in the world it could be. > > If you do not need your CD to be accessed on other OSs > then ext2 is the best bet. > > Bye, > Suriya Narayanan M S -- Regards Richard pa3gcu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs

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Re: CD writing in ext2 filesystem

On Thursday 25 April 2002 18:49, Pierre Rousselet wrote: > troll v.,n. To utter a posting designed to attract predictable > responses or flames. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies"; > which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling";, a style of fishing in > which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. You are possably correct, however. Just imagen all the ones that have tryed out the idea's written about ext2 filesystems on a cdrom..... What do you think they have thought so far.? Its feasable what the person suggest's, but it has, AFAIsee no use at all. I remember last year when someone sent a small one line script to the list asking what was wrong with it and if folks would test/try it, well i am sure many did, but i am also sure that many lost there systems as well as it would have completely wiped out there disk, (if run as root), if it was run as a user then that user lost all data/files in his home directory, i take that sort of thing very seriously indeed when sent to a list of people who have trust in us who try to answer questions sensibly and to the best of our knowlage. Joking and palying around should be done in the playground, not in the classroom. One reason why i bite at the bate... If you belive i am a troll for doing so let me know. > > > Pierre > -- > ------------------------------------------------ > Pierre Rousselet <pierre.rousselet@xxxxxxxxxx> > ------------------------------------------------ -- Regards Richard pa3gcu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs