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On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:49:32 -0400, AAW
<AAW-yvxbkcIk1KXQT0dZR+AlfA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> /usr/lib64/chkrootkit/chkproc -v claims:
> You have You have 69 process hidden for ps command
> Should I be panicking?

Almost guaranteed to be a false alarm. I have 76.
As the processes are in /proc, you can see what they are ...

#!/bin/bash

for ProcessNum in `/usr/lib/chkrootkit/chkproc -v | grep "ps output" | awk
'{print $2}'`; do
if [ -f "/proc/${ProcessNum:0:4}/cmdline" ]; then
cat "/proc/${ProcessNum:0:4}/cmdline"
echo .
fi
done
# End of script

On my system, the above script shows that the processes belong to nscd,
console-kit-daemon,
pulseaudio, wish (running amsn), opera. If you remove the if statement, there
is one which
belongs to chkrootkit ifself, which is gone by time the script gets to the
point of trying
to show the cmdline.

Taking one of the process numbers, 8474, it indeed does not show up in "ps
-ax", yet it
does show up in htop, as a thread for opera.

A google search on 'chkrootkit "false positive"' will turn up lots of hits.

Regards, Dave Hodgins
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[Security-Discuss] Hidden Processes

chkrootkit is reporting: Checking `lkm'... You have chkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed /usr/lib64/chkrootkit/chkproc -v claims: You have You have 69 process hidden for ps command I've booted to my fallback install (2008.1, never connected to internet) and checked the installation (chkrootkit, rkhunter, checked md5sum of ps and other important binaries against "rpm -qp --dump"). Everything looks OK. I see a similar question by Dick Gevers on 2008-02-20 but no responses. I've also seen some google research that some distro's modify ps to hide processes; redhat was the only one specifically mentioned. Should I be panicking? Thanks, Arn ____________________________________________________ Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com ____________________________________________________

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Re: [Security-Discuss] Hidden Processes

On Tuesday, June 3, 2008 3:14 pm David W. Hodgins wrote: > Almost guaranteed to be a false alarm.  I have 76. > As the processes are in /proc, you can see what they are ... That's what I thought -- or I'd have reformatted and reinstalled _before_ asking the question. ;-) Appreciate the information. Thanks, Arn ____________________________________________________ Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com ____________________________________________________

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[Security-Discuss] Hidden Processes

chkrootkit is reporting: Checking `lkm'... You have chkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed /usr/lib64/chkrootkit/chkproc -v claims: You have You have 69 process hidden for ps command I've booted to my fallback install (2008.1, never connected to internet) and checked the installation (chkrootkit, rkhunter, checked md5sum of ps and other important binaries against "rpm -qp --dump"). Everything looks OK. I see a similar question by Dick Gevers on 2008-02-20 but no responses. I've also seen some google research that some distro's modify ps to hide processes; redhat was the only one specifically mentioned. Should I be panicking? Thanks, Arn ____________________________________________________ Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com ____________________________________________________

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Re: [Security-Discuss] Hidden Processes

On Tuesday, June 3, 2008 3:14 pm David W. Hodgins wrote: > Almost guaranteed to be a false alarm.  I have 76. > As the processes are in /proc, you can see what they are ... That's what I thought -- or I'd have reformatted and reinstalled _before_ asking the question. ;-) Appreciate the information. Thanks, Arn ____________________________________________________ Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com ____________________________________________________
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