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Re: about the multiple security module in LSM: msg#00023

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Subject: Re: about the multiple security module in LSM

* Yuan Chunyang (cyyuan79@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
> > On a per-hook basis, I suppose you could
> > # modprobe stacker
> > # echo "default a or b or c" > /sys/security/stacker/compose
> > # echo "inode_permission (a and b) or c" > /sys/security/stacker/compose
> > # ...
> > # modprobe digsig_verif
> > # modprobe bsdjail
> > # modprobe seclvl
>
> yes. But I want to put this metapolicy in a concentrated configure file. Then
> we can
> write our this rule, such as "(a and b) or c", in a file. When boot up,
> kernel will read
> it . As you said , I will implement it using sysfs filesystem.

I can't imagine exposing per-hook rules will help improve security in
any way. This is the kind of thing that is exporting the internals of
a framework and expecting people to make sense of it. Further, the
framework interface is not intended to be completely stable, it changes
as other kernel internals change. Can you give a precise example where
a single default composition policy is insufficient?

(BTW, thanks for using sysfs, reading config file from kernel is a no go)

> > I usually think of LSM as implementing MAC and not DAC, but I guess there's
> > nothing stopping you :) What do you want in additional DAC, mainly to build
> > your own ACL's?
>
> Yes. The DAC is implemented by ACL.
>
> >
> > I'll be interested to see your results. Are you implementing your own MAC
> > and
> > RBAC systems, or starting with, say, SELinux?
>
> Ok, when the framework comes out, I will put it to maillist. We accomplished
> our
> own MAC system.
>

What framework are you waiting for? No shame in publish early/publish
often ;-)

thanks,
-chris
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