Subject: Re: NavTeq Maps - msg#00022

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Re: NavTeq Maps

These prices are reasonable, if the maps are good and regularly updated (of course with an extra charge for up-dates). The license should not be a concern, because maps is data!! It is totally unreasonable to assume that when you use free software the data that are manipulated by this software also must be free. Please everybody thinks this over. Regards Uli On Monday, April 4, 2005 2:08, Andrew Dodd wrote: > Quoting Christopher Jastram <cej-oLV2wU0gj9/QT0dZR+AlfA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > Hi all, > > > > I finally got a call back from NavTeq regarding their map data. > > > > They're going to give me a sample of their data, and I'll see if it can > > be used. If so, then I get to think about some other things... > > > > Like funding. That stuff is expensive. I don't know if it's possible, > > but I'm going to give it a shot. > > > > Here are the resale prices for maps, for what I'm thinking. $140 for full > > US maps, $120 for full Europe, $220 for both. How many Linux and MacOS > > people would be willing to pay this kind of money for good maps? These > > would, of course, have to be licensed on a per-machine basis. Maybe I > > can work out discounts for "small" devices like PDAs, but I don't think > > so. NavTeq plays hardball. > > > > What do you think of those prices? Are they reasonable? > > This is a reply to a rather old message, I haven't been keeping up on my > mailing list mail very well lately. > > The prices you quote are indeed reasonable for NavTeq data. They're very > close to the prices that Mapopolis charges for their NavTeq-based data. > Regional licensing is a possibility, but good luck getting reasonable > pricing on small datasets. (Such as individual counties.) > > The biggest problem is that NavTeq's license would almost surely be > incompatible with any open-source software. :( > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > -- > This message was part of the gpsdrive mailinglist > unsubscribing can be done by sending a mail containing a body of: > -quote-- > unsubscribe gpsdrive > -unquote-- > to majordomo-ahljRfkWE0EwtzFM8z8+AfP6llvjuJOh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- This message was part of the gpsdrive mailinglist unsubscribing can be done by sending a mail containing a body of: -quote-- unsubscribe gpsdrive -unquote-- to majordomo-ahljRfkWE0EwtzFM8z8+AfP6llvjuJOh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Re: GpsDrive on ZAURUS(Japanese Map)

Hellow Joerg, > Just have a look into the file po/ja.po there you find all UserInterface (UI) > text. you just have to translate these into Japanese. O.K. Now I am making 2.10pre2's ja.po. If UI hange anything for next version, please inform me. By the way. The following is my home map. This URL contain the position (deg/mm/ss), map scale(1/7000) and map size(1280x1024). And a lot of scales can be obtained. This is very convenient for me. :-) Only one probrem is not WGS84 position, this positioning is named "Tokyo". So I need excange the position. :-( http://www.mapion.co.jp/c/f?el=139/36/45.600&scl=70000&size=1280,1024&uc=1&grp=MapionBB&nl=35/31/36.300 -- This message was part of the gpsdrive mailinglist unsubscribing can be done by sending a mail containing a body of: -quote-- unsubscribe gpsdrive -unquote-- to majordomo-ahljRfkWE0EwtzFM8z8+AfP6llvjuJOh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Re: NavTeq Maps

These prices are reasonable, if the maps are good and regularly updated (of course with an extra charge for up-dates). The license should not be a concern, because maps is data!! It is totally unreasonable to assume that when you use free software the data that are manipulated by this software also must be free. Please everybody thinks this over. Regards Uli On Monday, April 4, 2005 2:08, Andrew Dodd wrote: > Quoting Christopher Jastram <cej-oLV2wU0gj9/QT0dZR+AlfA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > Hi all, > > > > I finally got a call back from NavTeq regarding their map data. > > > > They're going to give me a sample of their data, and I'll see if it can > > be used. If so, then I get to think about some other things... > > > > Like funding. That stuff is expensive. I don't know if it's possible, > > but I'm going to give it a shot. > > > > Here are the resale prices for maps, for what I'm thinking. $140 for full > > US maps, $120 for full Europe, $220 for both. How many Linux and MacOS > > people would be willing to pay this kind of money for good maps? These > > would, of course, have to be licensed on a per-machine basis. Maybe I > > can work out discounts for "small" devices like PDAs, but I don't think > > so. NavTeq plays hardball. > > > > What do you think of those prices? Are they reasonable? > > This is a reply to a rather old message, I haven't been keeping up on my > mailing list mail very well lately. > > The prices you quote are indeed reasonable for NavTeq data. They're very > close to the prices that Mapopolis charges for their NavTeq-based data. > Regional licensing is a possibility, but good luck getting reasonable > pricing on small datasets. (Such as individual counties.) > > The biggest problem is that NavTeq's license would almost surely be > incompatible with any open-source software. :( > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > -- > This message was part of the gpsdrive mailinglist > unsubscribing can be done by sending a mail containing a body of: > -quote-- > unsubscribe gpsdrive > -unquote-- > to majordomo-ahljRfkWE0EwtzFM8z8+AfP6llvjuJOh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- This message was part of the gpsdrive mailinglist unsubscribing can be done by sending a mail containing a body of: -quote-- unsubscribe gpsdrive -unquote-- to majordomo-ahljRfkWE0EwtzFM8z8+AfP6llvjuJOh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Re: NavTeq Maps

Andrew Dodd wrote: Unfortunately, I would not be surprised if NavTeq would forbid licensing their data for use with any open-source application because of their desire to license the data based on the features of the application. (e.g. voice prompts/routing/etc are extra $$$). Note that they want people to sign an NDA just to obtain *PRICING* information on their data. Unless, of course, we want to pay the full price for all features, which, as I envision it: * Handheld device support * Speech recognition * Text-to-speech * Heads-up display (projection on windshield) * POI * Multiple tracks * Traffic flow monitoring * 3D display, including topographical warping of map * Routing, including dynamic re-routing * WiFi mapping * (any other features that someone brilliant can come up with) Some of these features are already there, most aren't, but will be eventually. After thinking about the various features I'd like to see included, I decided not to follow up on the NavTeq queries. Some day, someone will bother to do this, but not me, now. Instead, I'm going to play around with multi-layer display plugins for gpsdrive, which may allow an overlay of TIGER vector data (routing!) onto expedia/mapblast raster maps (accuracy!). Christopher Jastram cej102937 -- This message was part of the gpsdrive mailinglist unsubscribing can be done by sending a mail containing a body of: -quote-- unsubscribe gpsdrive -unquote-- to majordomo-ahljRfkWE0EwtzFM8z8+AfP6llvjuJOh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx