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Subject: Re: Bug#265743: debian-reference: FTBFS: tetex-bin changes? - msg#00044List: linux.debian.devel.documentation>> On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 19:51:31 +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: >> > Transcript written on pdflatex.log. >> > fmtutil: /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdflatex.fmt installed. >> > (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) >> > debiandoc2latexpdf: ERROR: reference.en.pdf could not be generated properly >> > make[1]: *** [reference.en.pdf] Error 1 >> > >> > I assume this has to do with the recent changes to tetex-bin, but I'm not >> > really sure. > > Sigh :-( I am wondering how TeX/LaTeX folks feel about RC bugs on > documentation packages due to recent TeX/LaTeX package situation. Look > at Bug #265247 (or #265247), #265611, #264394, #263840, ... it ain't > pretty sight. > > I do not feel like adding build script hack now to package just to get > away for FTBFS serious bug unless TeX/LaTeX is stabilized. In my opinion, the way debian-reference (and others?) worked around tetex's poor language handling is plainly wrong. As far as I understand it, you want to generate pdf's in various languages and need hyphenation enabled for each of them. Because of teTeX's previously poor handling of languages, you enabled them in a local format file you created during package build, right? - First of all, this is no longer needed. In a noninteractive or hit-ENTER-always install, you get a language.dat with patterns enabled for all available languages. - Instead of making a workaround in the package (namely, building a local format file), you should have complained with the teTeX maintainers earlier. Then we would probably have come up with the "default-all" solution earlier. > I know TeX/LaTeX has been quite actively updated. IMHO, it should be > very stable when FREEZE starts. But reality is not. If you think about > TeX/LateX, it is like GCC for C program. We should not make major change > with incompatibility at this late moment. But it happened. Yes, it happened. I didn't feel too well with some of the last changes. But as for the eTeX transition, I must say, I didn't envisage any problems. I simply didn't assume that package maintainers made such ugly workarounds instead of requesting us to do the changes they needed. > On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 11:07:47PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: >> Looks like it. Changing bin/debiandoc2latexpdf's "pdflatex" call to a >> "pdfelatex" one seems to be a workaround. > > If new "pdfelatex" is needed, why this was not offered as an alternative > of pdflatex so it does not break build script. Is this already fix? I do not completely understand how this workaround helps. But pdfelatex is and was available - what alternatives should we have offered? And, more importantly, do the problems still occur with tetex-bin_2.0.2-18? Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster, Biozentrum der Univ. Basel Abt. Biophysikalische Chemie Thread at a glance:
Previous Message by Date: click to view message previewBug#265743: debian-reference: FTBFS: tetex-bin changes?From: Hilmar Preusse <hille42@xxxxxx> Subject: Re: Bug#265743: debian-reference: FTBFS: tetex-bin changes? Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:26:45 +0200 > On 15.08.04 Osamu Aoki (osamu@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > If anyone insists this to be RC, I will reassign this to TeX/LateX > > but people there seems handful with similar reports and such an big > > example file like this package is tough one to track the bugs. > > > > So, I am making this a "wishlist" for now and I will close this one if > > latest unstable environment build OK. > > > I'll have a look at the bugs to see, what you're really speaking > about. I've had a quick look at the bug but the package is really big and hard to investigate. What I can't understand is why scripts would try to generate *.fmt and/or *.efmt, and I have a feeling that scripts could be refined to some extent. Anyway please try the patch attached. Regards, 2004.8.16(Mon) -- Debian Developer & Debian JP Developer - much more I18N of Debian Atsuhito Kohda <kohda@xxxxxxxxxx> Department of Math., Univ. of Tokushima diff -ur debian-reference-old/Makefile debian-reference-1.07/Makefile --- debian-reference-old/Makefile 2004-08-16 14:28:15.000000000 +0900 +++ debian-reference-1.07/Makefile 2004-08-16 14:31:15.000000000 +0900 @@ -228,16 +228,35 @@ latex.fmt: texmf/language.dat TEXINPUTS=$$(pwd)/texmf/:$$(kpsetool -n tex -p tex) \ - fmtutil --byfmt latex --fmtdir . + tex -ini latex.ini > /dev/null +# fmtutil --byfmt latex --fmtdir . pdflatex.fmt: texmf/language.dat TEXINPUTS=$$(pwd)/texmf/:$$(kpsetool -n pdftex -p tex) \ - fmtutil --byfmt pdflatex --fmtdir . + pdftex -ini pdflatex.ini > /dev/null +# fmtutil --byfmt pdflatex --fmtdir . # required by thumbpdf (called from debiandoc2latexpdf) pdftex.fmt: texmf/language.dat TEXINPUTS=$$(pwd)/texmf/:$$(kpsetool -n pdftex -p tex) \ - fmtutil --byfmt pdftex --fmtdir . + pdftex -ini pdftex.ini > /dev/null +# fmtutil --byfmt pdftex --fmtdir . + +latex.efmt: texmf/language.dat + TEXINPUTS=$$(pwd)/texmf/:$$(kpsetool -n tex -p tex) \ + etex -ini latex.ini > /dev/null +# fmtutil --byfmt latex --fmtdir . + +pdflatex.efmt: texmf/language.dat + TEXINPUTS=$$(pwd)/texmf/; \ + pdfetex -ini pdflatex.ini > /dev/null +# fmtutil --byfmt pdflatex --fmtdir . + +# required by thumbpdf (called from debiandoc2latexpdf) +pdftex.efmt: texmf/language.dat + TEXINPUTS=$$(pwd)/texmf/; \ + pdfetex -ini pdftex.ini > /dev/null +# fmtutil --byfmt pdftex --fmtdir . # DVI @@ -251,24 +270,24 @@ # PS -$(MANUAL1).%.ps: $(MANUAL1).%.sgml $(MANUAL1).%.ent $(SGMLSRCS) latex.fmt +$(MANUAL1).%.ps: $(MANUAL1).%.sgml $(MANUAL1).%.ent $(SGMLSRCS) latex.fmt latex.efmt ln -sf fix.latex.ent fix.ent bin/debiandoc2latexps $(BUILD_OPT) -l $$(echo $* | bin/getlocale) $< -$(MANUAL2).%.ps: $(MANUAL2).%.sgml $(MANUAL2).%.ent $(SGMLSRCS) latex.fmt +$(MANUAL2).%.ps: $(MANUAL2).%.sgml $(MANUAL2).%.ent $(SGMLSRCS) latex.fmt latex.efmt ln -sf fix.latex.ent fix.ent bin/debiandoc2latexps $(BUILD_OPT) -l $$(echo $* | bin/getlocale) $< # PDF $(MANUAL1).%.pdf: $(MANUAL1).%.sgml $(MANUAL1).%.ent $(SGMLSRCS) \ - pdflatex.fmt pdftex.fmt %/hyperref-full.cfg + pdflatex.fmt pdftex.fmt pdflatex.efmt pdftex.efmt %/hyperref-full.cfg ln -sf fix.latex.ent fix.ent ln -sf $*/hyperref-full.cfg hyperref.cfg bin/debiandoc2latexpdf $(BUILD_OPT) -l $$(echo $* | bin/getlocale) $< $(MANUAL2).%.pdf: $(MANUAL2).%.sgml $(MANUAL2).%.ent $(SGMLSRCS) \ - pdflatex.fmt pdftex.fmt %/hyperref-quick.cfg + pdflatex.fmt pdftex.fmt pdflatex.efmt pdftex.efmt %/hyperref-quick.cfg ln -sf fix.latex.ent fix.ent ln -sf $*/hyperref-quick.cfg hyperref.cfg bin/debiandoc2latexpdf $(BUILD_OPT) -l $$(echo $* | bin/getlocale) $< @@ -556,7 +575,7 @@ manual.html.stamp: manual.sgml debiandoc2html manual.sgml touch manual.html.stamp - + #====[ cleaning up ]=========================================================== distclean: clean make "PUBLISHDIR=~/public_html/" publish-clean @@ -574,7 +593,7 @@ rm -f $(addprefix $(MANUAL1).*.,$(clean_SUFFIXES)) rm -f $(addprefix $(MANUAL2).*.,$(clean_SUFFIXES)) rm -f *~ prior.aux pprior.aux *.log typescript README README.html - rm -f latex.fmt pdflatex.fmt pdftex.fmt latex.efmt pdflatex.efmt + rm -f latex.fmt pdflatex.fmt pdftex.fmt latex.efmt pdflatex.efmt pdftex.efmt rm -f latex.log pdflatex.log pdftex.log rm -f *.tex[01]pdf *.tex[01]ps rm -f $(MANUAL0).tar.gz fix.ent hyperref.cfg Next Message by Date: click to view message previewthis lets you deliver every night without failThe gener!c version costs a fraction of the name brand version. It's a product that you definitely need to try atleast once. Each package is shipped discreetly, in a plain envelope. Rosalinda Bombardier http://Jhfb.cheapergenerics.com To be taken off the marketing list for generic medications or related products, use this link here: http://F16562718.cheapergenerics.com y1Jfsnfbuh Previous Message by Thread: click to view message previewRe: Bug#265743: debian-reference: FTBFS: tetex-bin changes?On 15.08.04 Osamu Aoki (osamu@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: Hi, > Sigh :-( I am wondering how TeX/LaTeX folks feel about RC bugs on > documentation packages due to recent TeX/LaTeX package situation. > Look at Bug #265247 > ... has nothing to do with the TeX e-TeX migration. Until now I'm not really sure, about what happened here, cause after unpack a file was missing, which is part of tetex-bin. The following was a typo in tetex-base -- unrelated to the migration. > #265611 > ... has nothing to do with the TeX e-TeX migration. It might be the other migration: /usr/share/texmf/web2c it not more an ln -s into /var, but rather an own dir. Doesn't break the autobuilders, as they assume the default answers and not changed config files. > #264394 > Bug is normal. The described file doesn't compile on Knuth TeX either. No gain if you switch back. The bug is here, that the error behaviour of e-TeX is wrong. > #263840 > Wouldn't have happened, if the user would have taken the default answer. Doesn't break the auto builders. Thanks, Hilmar -- Most people's favorite way to end a game is by winning. http://hilmarpreusse.forum-rheinland.de/ Next Message by Thread: click to view message previewBug#265743: debian-reference: FTBFS: tetex-bin changes?On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 02:03:23PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > > And, more importantly, do the problems still occur with > tetex-bin_2.0.2-18? I was using 2.0.2-18 when filing this bug. I knew there were problems with the -17 version. This is still failing in current sid. 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