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RE: Service level security for RFCOMM: msg#00109

linux.bluez.devel

Subject: RE: Service level security for RFCOMM

Hi Marcel, Abhi,

On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 15:47, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
> > Service level security is required for JSR-82 like Steve pointed it out.
> > For anyone implementing JSR-82, they would have to add this service level
> > security themselves. It would be most useful to have it as part of bluez
> > rather than have people implement their own way of it.
>
> actually you can't implement it in a sane way in userspace, because you
> don't have control over the RFCOMM signalling channel.

Marcel is right here. You can try and kludge it by trying to enforce the
security requirements _after_ the connection has been accepted but this
is pretty horrible (and it's hard to prevent acceptAndOpen() returning a
connection which is immediately closed).

> > Marcel, if you recall, we've exchanged an email regarding service level
> > security. At that point, you had mentioned thinking about a security
> > manager embedded in bluez that would allow it.
>
> This is a little bit different, because this is more basic stuff. You
> need to integrate the trigger points of the Bluetooth security mechanism
> into the RFCOMM layer. And actually the state machine of RFCOMM is more
> complex than the one of L2CAP. For me it is not clear at the moment what
> is the best thing to do without breaking anything.
>
> So the question still stands. Should we already force authentication
> when the peer sends PN CMD?

Actually p412 in the SPEC (v1.1) says:

"On the responding side, if authentication procedures are triggered from
RFCOMM, this must only be done when receiving a SABM frame, not when
receiving configuration commands preparing an unopened DLC (Erratum
1052)."

> > I am currently working on implementing JSR-82 which requires this level
> > of security. If anyone has already implemented or has a good way of doing
> > it,
> > please let me know. I would be very interested.
>
> As mentioned above the only way is inside the kernel, because otherwise
> you will trigger after the MSC exchange and this is too late.
>
> > Also, currently there is no service level security in l2cap for outgoing
> > connections. I would like to know if someone has already taken a stab at it
> > and if this should be part of bluez in the future.

I've had a look at this recently. If I get time I will have a go at
implementing it.

> You must convince me that this is really needed and a good idea. For
> what kind of application do you wanna use it?

It's for the same reason as stated above: you don't want the connection
to succeed unless the security requirements can be met. If you have a
client in security mode 2 and a server in security mode 1, you want the
server to see an incoming connection _only_ if authentication/encryption
have been successfully performed. You _don't_ want the server to see an
incoming connection which is immediately closed.

Regards,
Steve
--
Stephen Crane, Rococo Software Ltd. http://www.rococosoft.com
steve.crane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx +353-1-6601315 (ext 209)



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