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Re: Queue race condition patches: msg#00255

Subject: Re: Queue race condition patches



>My tests (with quality headphones) told me that the sources were too
audible
>at a long distance even with a change of several magnitudes to
>_AL_CUTOFF_ATTENUATION. So in my opinion, the value should either go away
>completely (I run with 0.00 with no audible problems) or much lower, as in

>1e-8 or lower.


1e-8 = -160dB which is unnecessary for 16 bit output which has a noise
floor of -96dB (1e-5 = -100dB).
Depending on the application (in games for example you can usually get away
with about -60dB (1e-3) as long
as other sounds are playing as well..
                                                       
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On Thursday 22 September 2005 10:13, Adam D. Moss wrote:
> Elias Naur wrote:
> > Finally, I'd like to change
> >
> > #define _AL_CUTTOFF_ATTENUATION 0.01
> > to
> > #define _AL_CUTTOFF_ATTENUATION 0.00
> >
> > in al_filter.c. Alternatively, if 0.00 is unacceptable, 1e-8 or
whatever.
> > The current 0.01 value is too high in my ears, since sources are simply
> > not attenuated enough with that as a lower limit.
>
> I have no particular opinion on this change.  I've not encountered
> sources not-being-attenuated-enough.  I think that 0 may not
> be good because a brief code-browse says that we compare with < not
> <=.  How does a tenfold reduction to 0.001 sound?
>

My tests (with quality headphones) told me that the sources were too
audible
at a long distance even with a change of several magnitudes to
_AL_CUTOFF_ATTENUATION. So in my opinion, the value should either go away
completely (I run with 0.00 with no audible problems) or much lower, as in
1e-8 or lower.

 - elias
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