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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Armijn Hemel wrote:

That depends. There are basically two options, which are outlined in the
GPL in sections 3a and 3b. The 3a section says (roughly said): ship the
sourcecode with the product, section 3b says (again, roughly): add an offer
for the sourcecode for any third party, valid for three years.

Ah, ok. So almost impossible to check as a non-customer of the product...

Basically, yes. Accusing companies of GPL incompliance, while they are in
fact GPL compliant, is in nobody's interest :)

Yes, i totally agree. Guess i'll just ask them and/or get a trial license.

Danny
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Re: When does a vendor need to provide sourcecode for products?

On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:31:31PM +0200, Daniel Meyer wrote: > >>Well, this is a clear violation of the GPL i think. The problem is: The > >>vendor does not have a download/trial version available on the website. So > >>my question is: Does the vendor need to provide the source code for the > >>GPL parts of the software to anyone or just to customers? > > > >That depends. There are basically two options, which are outlined in the > >GPL in sections 3a and 3b. The 3a section says (roughly said): ship the > >sourcecode with the product, section 3b says (again, roughly): add an offer > >for the sourcecode for any third party, valid for three years. > > Ah, ok. So almost impossible to check as a non-customer of the product... Basically, yes. Accusing companies of GPL incompliance, while they are in fact GPL compliant, is in nobody's interest :) armijn -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- armijn@xxxxxxxx | http://www.uulug.nl/ | UULug: Utrecht Linux Users Group ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [gpl-violations.org] District court of Frankfurt issues verdi ct on GPL violation of D-Link

Please let me know when the English version is available online. If the copy is available in English I volunteer to translate it to Spanish and make it freely available to anybody. We need to provide the spanish speaking community access to this useful information. Thanks. Regards, Pablo Palazzi http://www.pablopalazzi.net/ -----Mensaje original----- De: Harald Welte [mailto:laforge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Enviado el: miércoles, 25 de octubre de 2006 18:38 Para: Aaron Whitehouse CC: legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: Re: [gpl-violations.org] District court of Frankfurt issues verdict on GPL violation of D-Link On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 10:21:13AM +1300, Aaron Whitehouse wrote: > Harald Welte wrote: > > The (German) version of the court judgement can be found at > > http://www.jbb.de/urteil_lg_frankfurt_gpl.pdf > > An English translation will be made available within the next week. > > Is this English version available yet? Can you please post a message, > with the link, to the list? the translation was finished today, but is still pending some final review by english native speaker. Expect some news in the next couple of days. -- - Harald Welte <laforge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> http://gpl-violations.org/ ============================================================================ We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds. -- Linus

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Re: When does a vendor need to provide sourcecode for products?

On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 12:31:31PM +0200, Daniel Meyer wrote: > >>Well, this is a clear violation of the GPL i think. The problem is: The > >>vendor does not have a download/trial version available on the website. So > >>my question is: Does the vendor need to provide the source code for the > >>GPL parts of the software to anyone or just to customers? > > > >That depends. There are basically two options, which are outlined in the > >GPL in sections 3a and 3b. The 3a section says (roughly said): ship the > >sourcecode with the product, section 3b says (again, roughly): add an offer > >for the sourcecode for any third party, valid for three years. > > Ah, ok. So almost impossible to check as a non-customer of the product... Basically, yes. Accusing companies of GPL incompliance, while they are in fact GPL compliant, is in nobody's interest :) armijn -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- armijn@xxxxxxxx | http://www.uulug.nl/ | UULug: Utrecht Linux Users Group ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [gpl-violations.org] District court of Frankfurt issues verdi ct on GPL violation of D-Link

Please let me know when the English version is available online. If the copy is available in English I volunteer to translate it to Spanish and make it freely available to anybody. We need to provide the spanish speaking community access to this useful information. Thanks. Regards, Pablo Palazzi http://www.pablopalazzi.net/ -----Mensaje original----- De: Harald Welte [mailto:laforge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Enviado el: miércoles, 25 de octubre de 2006 18:38 Para: Aaron Whitehouse CC: legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: Re: [gpl-violations.org] District court of Frankfurt issues verdict on GPL violation of D-Link On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 10:21:13AM +1300, Aaron Whitehouse wrote: > Harald Welte wrote: > > The (German) version of the court judgement can be found at > > http://www.jbb.de/urteil_lg_frankfurt_gpl.pdf > > An English translation will be made available within the next week. > > Is this English version available yet? Can you please post a message, > with the link, to the list? the translation was finished today, but is still pending some final review by english native speaker. Expect some news in the next couple of days. -- - Harald Welte <laforge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> http://gpl-violations.org/ ============================================================================ We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds. -- Linus
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