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Re: Re: Rails and Seaside: msg#00172

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Subject: Re: Re: Rails and Seaside

I'm a newcomer to Squeak and have been itching to "bitch" about its usability. :-) Here are my 2 cents.

On Jan 14, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Jeremy Shute wrote:


The font choice is basically horrible. Serif text gives all sorts of
"cues" that the human eye can pick up in order to read faster, when on the
printed page. The screen, however, is 72 DPI. Do Apple, Microsoft,
Google, Yahoo, or Sony use Serif on their home page? No. Case closed.
Code should be in monospace because it's easier to communicate repeated
patterns that way (yeah, they still occur). These changes should be
default.


I couldn't agree more with Jeremy on the font issue. The first thing I change is set the font to use the Vera san serif based fonts. However, the anti-aliasing isn't done right. Too blurry on LCD screen. After I switched over to use the anti-aliased fonts, the display speed became awfully slow/sluggish. (at least on my PowerBook.)

Flaps are "a good idea" -- allowing you to whip your mouse to the edge of
the screen in order to navigate a menu of frequently used things. Except,
they don't remain atop the other windows, which is a bad idea, because
although you can run your mouse at 90 miles an hour to any edge of the
screen, what you're aiming for isn't there any longer. ARGH.


I agree that Flap is a noble attempt to provide fast access to frequently used stuff. However, it's poorly designed and implemented compared to the Mac OS X dock or even the NeXTSTEP dock that was designed over 10 years ago.

Mac OS X has done it right with the Dashboard and the dock. For power users/developers, some global hot key bindings to bring up browser or what not would be welcomed.


And, in case that wasn't enough, can you please make it sexy (OS 9)
without being ridiculous (OS X)? Take the time you would spend making it
themeable and use it instead to get it right the first time. How many
people theme Firefox or OS X?


Personally, I have grown to like the OS X U.I. more than the OS 9 now. I used to agree with what Jeremy said, but over time, I find the arrangement in OS X feel better, not just eye-candy stuff. Personally I consider themeable U.I. as a relatively less important feature. 1) usually, theme created by the creative individuals are too "colorful" and subjective for the usual users; 2) it has the least to do with usability. Hence, I'd rather focus the effort on improving the speed and usability issue.

All these issues boil down to one common problem for me. When I play/ work in Squeak, I feel cut off from my favorite OS, window manager, editor, fonts, etc, which is my most productive environment. I love the concept of Smalltalk/Squeak/Seaside etc, love the development tools, but can't go back 20 years and look at jagged serif fonts on my screen anymore when I have hundreds of modern anti-alias fonts on my disk.

If Seaside is to be successful, Squeak would need an overhaul.

Another problem is the lack of documentation, some sort of high level docs to help developers new to Smalltalk/Squeak get started to contribute and improve the environment would be essential.

my $0.02.
Chris

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