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Re: Seaside Design Questions

Avi Bryant (avi@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > On Dec 3, 2003, at 7:20 PM, Eric Hodel wrote: > > >In the course of porting Seaside to Ruby, I've come across many things > >I > >didn't understand. After beating my head against the wall, walking > >away, and coming back I figured out how they worked/why they were > >there. > >But that still didn't clue me into a few things... > > You know, you could have just sent me an email.... ;) Its much more fun, and there was more than enough stuff to explore. :) Overall, the port was very easy, understanding all the Whys is a little trickier. > >Same for WASession and WAControllerSession, since start seems to be the > >only abstract method in WASession. Is there some extra hooks that can > >be added by not subclassing from WAControllerSession? > > It's about layering - WASession doesn't know anything about Controller. > WAControllerSession does. In theory, you could rip out Controller and > everything that depends on it, and still have a decent > continuation-based session framework. > > Below that, you could rip out WASession and still have a decent > request/response servlet system. I see a similar thing with WADispatcher, it doesn't seem to be difficult to build a load balancer out of it... > It's actually nice to have someone go through and question this stuff - > it keeps me honest. If there's ever any element of the design that > someone doesn't understand, please ask. The worst case is that I'll > explain it, thus adding to the store of documentation, and the best > case is that we'll realize that the design sucks and be able to improve > it. There might be a few other minor leftovers, the only other one that comes to mind is the lastSnapshot instance variable for WAStateRegistry. I think there were a couple of other unused instance variables scattered about other classes. -- Eric Hodel - drbrain@xxxxxxxxxxxx - http://segment7.net All messages signed with fingerprint: FEC2 57F1 D465 EB15 5D6E 7C11 332A 551C 796C 9F04 pgpLrTLvThCLY.pgp Description: PGP signature _______________________________________________ Seaside mailing list Seaside@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/seaside

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Re: GOODS on XP

On Dec 5, 2003, at 11:25 PM, Glenn Swanlund wrote: I'm running XP Pro and trying to get Seaside (84) running with GOODS, but so far no luck. I installed MCInstaller and KomHttpServer-6.2 in a fresh version Squeak 3.6.     When I try to load goods-2.72.tar.gz, I get an error "can't find EOCD position".     When I try to load GOODS-avi.43.mcz.zip I get an error "At least one digit expected here" (MczInstaller>>extractInfoFrom:).   Avi, can you offer some help? Well, goods-2.72.tar.gz isn't meant to be loaded in Squeak - it's a tarball of C++ source. Someone did post prebuilt windows binaries, check the squeak-dev list archives. Otherwise, it builds pretty easily with mingw32. It's odd to me that the GOODS file is ".mcz.zip" - it should just be .mcz. What happens if you install it straight from SqueakMap? Once you have things installed, make sure you have the latest windows VM - I think 3.6.2. There's a bug in older versions that GOODS triggers. Avi

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Seaside Design Questions

In the course of porting Seaside to Ruby, I've come across many things I didn't understand. After beating my head against the wall, walking away, and coming back I figured out how they worked/why they were there. But that still didn't clue me into a few things... Why does WAStateRegistry use snapshot:isIdenticalTo: instead of =? In Smalltalk is = not always a valid indicator of two objects having the same state? Why are WAHtmlRenderer and WAHtmlBuilder split into two classes? Nothing is jumping out at me to explain this. Same for WASession and WAControllerSession, since start seems to be the only abstract method in WASession. Is there some extra hooks that can be added by not subclassing from WAControllerSession? The rest of these seem to be leftovers or things I am completely missing the point of. What was (is) the layout method on WAStoreBrowseFrame for? It seems template-ish code for renderContentOn in WAStoreBrowseFrame. What is the Amb class for? I don't see it used by any other part of Seaside. -- Eric Hodel - drbrain@xxxxxxxxxxxx - http://segment7.net All messages signed with fingerprint: FEC2 57F1 D465 EB15 5D6E 7C11 332A 551C 796C 9F04 pgp5mxXAwB7Ry.pgp Description: PGP signature _______________________________________________ Seaside mailing list Seaside@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/seaside

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Re: GOODS on XP

On Dec 5, 2003, at 11:25 PM, Glenn Swanlund wrote: I'm running XP Pro and trying to get Seaside (84) running with GOODS, but so far no luck. I installed MCInstaller and KomHttpServer-6.2 in a fresh version Squeak 3.6.     When I try to load goods-2.72.tar.gz, I get an error "can't find EOCD position".     When I try to load GOODS-avi.43.mcz.zip I get an error "At least one digit expected here" (MczInstaller>>extractInfoFrom:).   Avi, can you offer some help? Well, goods-2.72.tar.gz isn't meant to be loaded in Squeak - it's a tarball of C++ source. Someone did post prebuilt windows binaries, check the squeak-dev list archives. Otherwise, it builds pretty easily with mingw32. It's odd to me that the GOODS file is ".mcz.zip" - it should just be .mcz. What happens if you install it straight from SqueakMap? Once you have things installed, make sure you have the latest windows VM - I think 3.6.2. There's a bug in older versions that GOODS triggers. Avi