Subject: Mongrel, sit!, good god! -- said Rails core. - msg#00142

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Bare naked server

Thanks, Zed, for mongrel :!) I've been on TextDrive for some time running my sites behind apache w/lighttpd. Once it got running it was cool enough. When it ran. And there was still the webmin dance and all. So I decided to set things up on my little dedicated redhat server - since I'd had so much success locally w/mongrel. Fast. Simple. It has been great and I managed to move all my sites into it and off TD. Smooth as glass thus far. So, I decided I did not need no stinking apache ;-) Zed said : >Mongrel was >specifically designed to be run as a non-privileged user on a higher >port in order to avoid these kinds of things. In reality if you're >running Mongrel you should put it behind another web server and let that >web server defend port 80 for you. Doh. My understanding was that running a server in front of apache was primarily because apache(other) was good/better at serving static files. But since my performance thus far has been good(much faster now than apache/mod_ruby) I've not sweat it.(thinking in the future I'd serve images from another server if nec.) Are there other reasons, besides load, that I might be stupid for leaving mongrel running bare on port 80? Are the mongrel police going to come get me? I did have one interesting error that was being thrown because I was unable to grab the host name for a request. For some reason http:///w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.DFind: was landing on my port. I'm sending :status => 404 now(rather than dieing, which is caught by exception notifier) Are these the type of things I should be worried about? http://www.atlink.it/~conti/2006/03/04/w00tw00tatiscsansdfind-update/

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Re: Bare naked server

Multiple incoming requests? Mongrel (or, more specifically, Rails itself) can only handle a single request at a time, right? - James Moore

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Thanks, Zed, for mongrel :!) I've been on TextDrive for some time running my sites behind apache w/lighttpd. Once it got running it was cool enough. When it ran. And there was still the webmin dance and all. So I decided to set things up on my little dedicated redhat server - since I'd had so much success locally w/mongrel. Fast. Simple. It has been great and I managed to move all my sites into it and off TD. Smooth as glass thus far. So, I decided I did not need no stinking apache ;-) Zed said : >Mongrel was >specifically designed to be run as a non-privileged user on a higher >port in order to avoid these kinds of things. In reality if you're >running Mongrel you should put it behind another web server and let that >web server defend port 80 for you. Doh. My understanding was that running a server in front of apache was primarily because apache(other) was good/better at serving static files. But since my performance thus far has been good(much faster now than apache/mod_ruby) I've not sweat it.(thinking in the future I'd serve images from another server if nec.) Are there other reasons, besides load, that I might be stupid for leaving mongrel running bare on port 80? Are the mongrel police going to come get me? I did have one interesting error that was being thrown because I was unable to grab the host name for a request. For some reason http:///w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.DFind: was landing on my port. I'm sending :status => 404 now(rather than dieing, which is caught by exception notifier) Are these the type of things I should be worried about? http://www.atlink.it/~conti/2006/03/04/w00tw00tatiscsansdfind-update/

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Re: Mongrel, sit!, good god! -- said Rails core.

On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 14:02 -0300, Luis Lavena wrote: > Oh well, needed a good subject, sounds funny enough? > > http://dev.rubyonrails.org/ticket/5475 > > Add "automatic" mongrel support to script/server > > Status: closed, commited in rev #4486. > > That is good news, right? > > Ok, back to work, enoguh relax for me ;-) > Yeah man, it's very cool. If people have mongrel installed then they can do script/server mongrel and it'll start right up. Should make lots of folks happy. -- Zed A. Shaw http://www.zedshaw.com/ http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/