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Re: Inclusion of wxPerl in MacOSX 10.5 / Leopard: msg#00063

Subject: Re: Inclusion of wxPerl in MacOSX 10.5 / Leopard
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:18:02 +0100
Mark Dootson <mark.dootson@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hmmmm....
> In view of the slightly less enthusiastic response than expected, I'll shelve 
> this idea.
> Maybe it was a bad one anyway.

  I believe providing binary releases is a very good idea, and I also
thought of allowing side to side installation for different
wxPerl/wxWidgets combinations.  I don't think there is anything wrong
with what you write below.

  The trouble (as usual) is finding somebody to do it.  I remember it
took me a whole weekend (when everything went smoothly) to make a
wxPerl binary release for RedHat, Win32 and OS X Panther+Tiger.  I
also remember I anticipated with (almost) fear every wxPerl release,
and I am much more relaxed now that I decided not to provide binaries
myself.

Regards
Mattia
 
> Mark Dootson wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I was reading the wxWidgets blog which says
> > 
> > "The new schedule of Apple's OS X 10.5 a.k.a. Leopard (to ship in October) 
> > allows us to get a newer version of 2.8 into the builds. So we aim for a 
> > 2.8.4 Release Candidate around the end of April, synching wxPython and 
> > wxPerl with it."
> > 
> > It left me thinking, wouldn't it be nice if as a Wx developer, I could 
> > point to a ready built Wx package that needed to be installed for a 
> > particular platform, then I could just release the perl script, or at least 
> > some sort of package that needn't include the whole of Wx, and not be 
> > concerned about other installed versions of Wx.
> > 
> > I think it would be a nice idea to have a set of packages for different 
> > platforms but all built against the same versions of Wx / wxWidgets using 
> > the same build parameters (as far as possible).
> > 
> > It would be nice to aim for a 6 monthly release schedule.
> > 
> > The packages would have to allow one release to exist alongside another, so 
> > we would have to come up with a scheme for an install location that would 
> > work on each platform. It would be easy to point your script at the desired 
> > release version by using Wx::Mini or something close to it.
> > 
> > Its a way of being able to distribute a cross platform Wx script that uses 
> > an installed perl without having to worry about building and managing the 
> > wxPerl / wxWidgets distribution itself.
> > 
> > I imagine we'd end up with something like
> > 
> > wx-binary-release-01-win.exe
> > wx-binary-release-01-sus.rpm
> > wx-binary-release-01-fed.rpm
> > wx-binary-release-01.deb
> > wx-binary-release-01-10-5.dmg (universal)
> > wx-binary-release-01-10-4.dmg (universal)
> > wx-binary-release-01-10-3.dmg (ppc)
> > 
> > and after 6 months (if its agreed that this is the right sort of period for 
> > this kind of thing)
> > wx-binary-release-02-win.exe
> > etc.
> > 
> > I think I am right in saying that the dists would also work perfectly well 
> > if you used something like PAR/pp to package everything other than Wx. 
> > You'd just include the equivalent to Wx::Mini with your PAR which would add 
> > the standard install location of the wx-binary to your @INC.
> > 
> > Does anyone think this is a good idea, and more importantly, is anyone 
> > willing to sign up to produce one of the dists and a minimal installation 
> > doc for it?
> > 
> > I know CPAN works just fine so long as you are in control of the Perl 
> > installation, and would always be the preferred method if you are. But 
> > where you aren't in control there are many complications that I think the 
> > above would solve.
> > 
> > If you think the idea is really bad, please let me know too. You may be 
> > right!
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Mark

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