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Re: Concerns on support: msg#00051

Subject: Re: Concerns on support
Willem Grooters wrote:

> Just kept things that are required and cut the rest out...

> >>[quote]
> >>...
> >>part of the problem is the integration with apache (mod_perl)
> >
> >Yes, there really ought to be a more recent mod_perl based on more
> >recent Perl versions.  I have not attempted to build it, and I have a
> >feeling one would need the Apache 2.0 sources.

> Why the 2.0 sources?
> Quite a lot of users of SWS (Apache-on-VMS) are "not amused" (to say it
> kindly) with the requirement of STREAM_LF files for this version and are
> unwilling, even unable to switch to this version until that has been
> lifted.
> I think quite a lot of them would like to see mod_perl updated.
> Regardless the Apache version.

I share that not-amusedness.  I have been told both one-to-one (Tech roundtable
at OpenVMS boot camp) and by speakers that they will indeed fix this.  Their
attention had largely been on making it all run on Itanium.  In the meantime,
we're sticking with 1.3

(The "STREAM_LF" requirement was the result of Apache 2.0 mapping files into
memory for greater speed; this doesn't work with files with as much embedded
metadata as non STM_LF files have.  So HP needs to conditionalize that whole
process and include RMS reads on the VMS version.  Which, incidentally, is
probably not going to be great for performance.)


> >As far as I know (and could be wrong), OpenVMS Engineering has not
> >released the VMS changes for 2.0 nor submitted their changes to the
> >Apache foundation.

> As far as I know, sources can be obtained from HP, anyway. Regardless
> the submission to Apache.org...

My boss needed sources (to port an Rdb plugin for PHP), and although the
aren't up on the HP web site yet (because they haven't gotten around to
packaging them nicely), they put them up for temporary FTP for him.  So
if somebody wants to do this project, they could write to HP. 

I've had very good interactions with Rick Barry on SWS; if you want to try
writing him, it's firstname dot lastname @ hp dot com

-- Alan


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