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Re: [Jython-dev] What are the implications of Jython going PyPy?: msg#00074

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Subject: Re: [Jython-dev] What are the implications of Jython going PyPy?

> Ive got 2 classes of apps in mind:
> 1. Those that just use Jython as Jython. jyleo, for
> example.
> 2. Those that build using the Jython classes. jyleo's
> JythonShell is an example here. Its pure Java and
> uses alot of Jython's Java classes to acheive its
> integration.
>
> Im surmising a goal of going PyPy would be to make #1
> class apps work fine.

> But what are the implications
> of #2?

First off, I think a full-blown production-ready PyPy-Jython (JyJy?)
is something that is a long way off in the future and even that
pre-supposes that it makes sense to do (Personally I think it would be
a good thing, but I don't know that much about PyPy yet).

Someone would have to do bunch of work to get a JyJy that even runs
basic python code on the JVM, and probably quite a bit more to get the
Java-integration worked out. I expect a fair amount of code would
probably be pulled from the current Jython in order to get the
Java-integration.

> Does my valuable code suddenly become a thing
> that can't jump into the future? Granted there will
> probably be work between jython version to jython
> version to have it work. I had to do some recoding to
> get it to work from jython 2.1 to jython 2.2.

I'd say there are huge unknowns that make an answer to this question
difficult. But I also think a JyJy is a long, long way off, and even
if it got off of the ground, it would not mean that Jython in its
current form would fade away. Even if Jython-current did fade it
would happen very slowly, if at all.

-Frank


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