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Re: Re: Where do we go from here to get to 2.2 "proper": msg#00052

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Subject: Re: Re: Where do we go from here to get to 2.2 "proper"

On 3/28/06, Ray Djajadinata <rayfd_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>I am absolutely aware that Jython vs. IronPython comparison is not
fair because the
>latter has a team of dedicated, full-time employees, but the type of
the pulse that they
>send, e.g.: frequent release (even if each release is not perfect),
is a very strong
>indication of IronPython's aliveness. As a result the IP community is
testing each
>release stringently, they can't wait to get a new release and test
the heck out of it
>and play with it--it's really like a blog, where the fastest way for
you to get people to
>stop coming to your site is by stop blogging.

Yeah, i think jython is missing out on some of that virtuous feedback
loop between core development and users/testers/minor-contributors.
I'm also sure the core devs know well what steps could improve that
interaction (not letting tracker items go stale completely unaddressed
forever, keeping bug-fix and feature contributors engaged by providing
constructive feedback & mentorship, incorporating patches where
appropriate, releasing frequent snapshots etc).

Its probably more a matter of available time in otherwise busy lives,
combined with having to deal with the loss of much project knowledge
in the form of former core developers who have moved on to other
things (though fortunately we still have Samuele around to be a bridge
for the new generation). Still, on most days i'm optimistic the
project can rebuild enough critical mass to keep development
sustained, even without the corporate sponsorship ideas suggested
elsewhere in this discussion.

And hey, i do think we are doing a decent job as a group of fielding
questions on the mailing lists, maybe a strength to build on.

- kz


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