Re: [Jython-users] Where do we go from here to get to 2.2 "proper" ?

On 3/25/06, Walter Chang <chang.walter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We use jython 2.1 in one of our projects at work, and am looking at
> migrating to jython 2.2. (we use it in a bpm-like context...and would
> like to begin using generators)
>
> However, it seems that the progress on that front is a bit
> stagnant...there seems to be a lack of transparancy as to what are the
> outstanding items to get there...
I have to confess that blame for the current stagnation has to fall on
me.  With a day job, family, etc.  It can be tough to find all of the
time that I should be putting in to Jython since the current
leadership role has been given to me.

> - The psf proposal/grant that Brian had (and now Fank) been working on
> is way behind schedule
I'll put up a revised schedule as soon as I've finished working it out
with the PSF.  Also, the contract requires me to vet in public
discussion about it with them.

> - lack of clarity in regards to the resouces on this project (roles
> and responsiblities)
> - what is the roadmap of jython when factoring in jdk 1.5 and jdk 1.6
It works with 1.5, but hasn't been tested with 1.6.

> - what are the roadblocks getting us to 2.2 (and beyond)
That will require a post of its own.

> - the "main" jython.org site is way way out of date
This is what I am currently working on, a final mockup should be up
soon, then a full switch-over soon after that.  See
http://www.jython.org/mockup for an outdated mockup that will show the
look and feel.

> - the "perception" of lack of leadership
:(

> - jython resouces are plentiful (ibm development works, java
> salon...etc) but not organized
> - jython main site docs are useful...but not current
>
> I don't know if many other people feel the same way but jython as a
> project in general seems to be "lagging"
>
> It would be great to clear the "project management" stuff up so that
> we can see more "involvement"
>
> We should try to get the people who already use jython involved (which
> seems to be quite a few judging from the press we get from
> developerWorks, java serverside.com, OReily) rather than making a new
> spiffy website to drum up interest for "new" developers.
>
> I don't think I can speak for the whole community, but speaking just
> in regards to our group at work....we care more about:
>
> - bugfixes
> - project leadership (highlighing roadblocks and working with other
> projects to resolve them)
> - roadmap for java integration
> - roadmap for integration with other pure python projects (like cherrypy....)
> - roadmap for python 2.X builtin module integration
> - documentation update
> - frequent releases
I have three big tasks that I'll be finalizing soon:
1. Get the new website up.
2. Move to subversion (more about this soon)
3. Go through the bugs and patches to prioritize/reject/apply

After that I'll be in a better place to create roadmaps, etc.

Thanks,

-Frank


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