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Re: Lack of software abstractions: msg#00182

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Subject: Re: Lack of software abstractions

I'm curious as to what he means by APL(or J, for that matter) failing....

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Devon McCormick" <devonmcc-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "J-general forum" <general-eCoxsOKuxbJl57MIdRCFDg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:17 PM
Subject: [Jgeneral] Lack of software abstractions


> Here's an interesting comment by Paul Robinson, mentioning APL, on how
> software development
> is hindered by lack of adequate abstractions:
> http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/24.54.html .
>
> This is something J is good at. Though, in a way, it's too good: it seems
> when people
> encounter real abstraction, they start talking about how hard it is to
> understand. However,
> at some point this is an irreducible problem: even when you simplify
complex
> things as
> much as possible, they are often still complex.
>
> --
> Devon McCormick
> ^me^ at acm.
> org is my
> preferred e-mail
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