This is what I mean.
Sorry, different license issue :-) This time Sun is the obvious
potential culprit :-)
I'm gonna check on this tomorrow
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Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:03:05 -0700
From: Luis Montes <monteslu@xxxxxxx>
To: Philippe Laporte <philippe.laporte@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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oops.
thanks :)
Luis
Philippe Laporte wrote:
your clock is ahead
Philippe Laporte
Software
Gatespace Telematics
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Luis Montes wrote:
We could really use some direction from Nokia here.
Jamvm, SableVM, GIJ, maybe even ikvm, could all likely be made to
work with a subset of gnu classpath to implement CLDC 1.1 and a
hildon based MIDP 2.0
But if we really want to run java effeciently, we should use the
Jazelle hardware on the ARM chip. This part is not free and would
require Nokia to put out the jvm.
There is no reason Nokia couldn't put out the jvm and use it along
with open source class libraries.
Luis
Philippe Laporte wrote:
Hi,
I have just joined this list so please forgive whatever sounds
ignorant.
For the choice of VM I would recommend SableVM, as with its recent
refactoring I built it down to 220 K on Intel with gcc -Os etc.
Check out SableVM at www.sablevm.org.
We at Gatespace are the people behind Knopflerfish OSGI. I
test-drove Knopflerfish's test suite with JamVM and SableVM (both
use Classpath), the results were the same, and the speed was
comparable. Haven't measured memory consumption yet. We target CDC,
so our constraints with respect to that are less strict.
Classpath's AWT of course runs on top of GTK+.
I argue for Sable instead of Jam because:
- Sable has a large and active community
- Sable is LGPL. GPL does not work for maemo. Read why at
http://sablevm.org/wiki/License_FAQ.
- Sable has an almost complete JIT compiler.
Someone needs to put in a build option to Classpath to make it build
CLDC only, or any other profile.
As for the MIDP implementation, someone is working on it (announced
on the wishlist).
Best Regards,
Philippe Laporte
Software
Gatespace Telematics
Första Långgatan 18
41328 Göteborg
Sweden
Phone: +46 702 04 35 11
Fax: +46 31 24 16 50
Email: philippe.laporte@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
barteo@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Right. Most work for that port would be in:
- choosing JVM,
- create CLDC implementation,
- create graphics support (MIDP part) to GTK+.
Regards,
Bartek Teodorczyk
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Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770
From: Jesper Zuschlag <jesper@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, March 07, 2006 12:43 pm
To: maemo-developers@xxxxxxxxx
Sound fine. But you will not get far without a Java environment /
JVM, which is exactly what we are missing on the Nokia 770. I
been having plans for implementing a CLDC JVM on the 770 but I
have been waiting for somebody to make 770 development on Mac OS
X possible. I don't think it is possible yet.
/Jesper
On 07/03/2006, at 11.45, barteo@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hello,
I've read some discussion on that list about the possibility of
running
J2ME MIDlets on Nokia 770. As I've found, the problem is because of
lack of J2ME implementation for that device. I'm an author of
MicroEmulator (http://www.sf.net/projects/microemulator) - pure java
CLDC/MIDP implementation. I think it would be possible to create
port
of MicroEmulator on Nokia 770 to fill that gap. If anyone is
interesested in that please send info and I could look into more
deeply.
Regards,
Bartek Teodorczyk
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